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March 5th, 2006 at 8:02 pm
ChannahLerman you piece of shit;
is Renee and Hannah Leermarkers, whom Rabbi Mordecai Tendler performed a second marriage to make it kosher. Another tactic of halacha to make him look like a leader. You don’t get it. You think it’s about the victim, it’s about Rabbi Mordecai Tendlers’ abuse. You got used, like everyone. You can’t even see that what you heard was a threat and false claims made, a horrific action the shul did which you never confronted her but invited her to Israel instead to only watch her like a communist. That you are so brain washed that even hearing what the shul did and then hearing Tendler call her in your home, and seeing how he was seducing her in front of you while dinning out after the call that you can’t see how he used threats and lies against his victims, hides his predicating, lying to only seek women out. You chicken shit, didn’t even confront her or allow her to talk to you then nor all these years to tell you of her abuse you kool aid junky who maligns this victim blogs. Thankfully she escaped your communist home and you don’t know about her trip so called motivation. You know nothing. You moved to Israel because of RMT Renee/Mosha and called him all the time. You couldn’t wait to see him, dropped every thing, your job, your family, chauffeured him everywhere. Claimed you were waiting for his children to all marry so he would set up the community he was building for you to be with him. You collected funds for his Mohav. What happen to that money? How much did you get? You searched for land for RMT. You are the ones overly crazy about him and you can’t admit you were suckered but out it on her? Any thing she did you saw it as a communist does, whan he is the criminal. In front of your blind eyes, he grabbed her but you see it as her rubbing against him. You fools. You wouldn’t see the truth and obviously didn’t. But its ok for you to spear a fabrication you holy righteous liars. Any women and person who RMT found to be a threat he threaten backed, with police, authority, called bosses up to fire them, blackmailed, blackballed, harasses, intimidated, ostracized and smear among any close contact. KNH men couldn’t leave his side either never getting home Friday nights being with him calling all the time. Now his members who voted to suspense RMT are seeing this side of him. They too are being threatened just like his victims. That’s why so many survivors/women left. Look at yourselves you are who they have to go up against you brain washed kool aid members. Your fears about your marriage you transfer on her. Delusional the things you claimed she said, she did. Go back to Holland-get out of the Holy land because you ain’t and certainly not Jewish.
The plaintiff never said ever that she wanted to marry him that is your big transfer illusion. Never did she buy earrings for him you piece of shit liar. NEVER NEVER did she say ever that she wanted to marry him. You aren’t Jewish you piece of shit and blab lies over blogs. You saw and heard what you wanted. You piece of shit and more will be said later. You post, “we thought she was crazy� you are crazy going with him everywhere, believing in lies about her when you didn’t ask your friend, you’re a betrayer. You are crazy for seeing her the way you describe here and especially not seeing what he did in front of your eyes. You post “she e-mails hundreds of mails,� fabricated lies. Ask her you chicken shit how many e-mails. Rabbi Mordecai Tendler know how to e-mail. Claiming it’s between them? I heard she e-mailed a resource trying to help you fund some kids at your Yehuv needing plane ticket money to go to a USA summer camp. You brain washed stupidity of a couple bunch of losers
March 5th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
Why do we need agreement from a Board member to play the tapes. Just play them and we can once and for all settle this!
March 5th, 2006 at 8:09 pm
I don’t think Tendler would actually have relations with women at the mikvah, that would be absurd. All I am saying is that I am so disgusted with the situation that I don’t want to be anywhere near him, especially when I am going to the mikvah. I would rather walk to New Square. The situation is very sad, I am sad to see KNH going down the drain.
March 5th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
i always wanted to have relations in a mikva
nothing like dirty water to turn me on.
March 5th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
Resident of NH: I know that you didn’t say Tendler would have relations at the mikvah, but I am saying that he definitely would because of the descriptions that I received from some of the victims of the different types of hiding places that he cleverly arranges. And he has no regard for a holy place - he has relations with tefillin on and in the presence of his sefarim.
March 5th, 2006 at 9:12 pm
nl - you did not answer my question. If Batei Din are normally closed (and I think that is the normal protocol), these will be as well. The resulting decision will be made public.
JC - if KNH declares bankruptcy, it ain’t coming back, membership ain’t coming back (or rather very little of it will) and more members will leave. To think otherwise is to live in la-la land and I’m not talking about LA.
March 5th, 2006 at 9:20 pm
SIW: Please reprimand/ban whoever posted the first comment in this thread, using the name “ChannahLerman you piece of ****”.
I believe that this blog is for the reasonable exchange of ideas between decent people. I think that the post above is the opposite of what this blog represents. It is offensive on many levels. The author could have made his/her point using a decent tone and decent langauge but chose not to.
March 5th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
I agree with insider, anyone who uses such language loses his or her credibility, in my eyes. Although I myself have posted things that I regret just to get it out of my system, perhaps that is what that individual did as well. Does anyone know why the board mailed us letters about suspending Rabbi Tendler when he was the Rabbi this Shabbos? What do they intend to do now, pretend they didn’t mail those letters and suspend him? Perhaps in the future they should be careful what they send out in the e-mails and mail, don’t you think?
March 5th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
THE LAST BEIT DIN WHEN TENDLER TOOK KY
SAYING WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANOTHER SHUL… IT WAS PUBLIC PEOPLE TOOK TAPE RECORDERS.
THE MAIN THING I LEARNED FROM THAT EXPERIENCE WITH TENDLER,
IS A VERY VERY IMPORTANT ONE TO PASS ON!!!
GET EVERYTHING IN WRITTING, TENDLER WILL AGREE TO ANYTHING VERBALY AND THEN LIE ABOUT IT AFTERWARD.
HE WILL SAY HE WON THE WHOLE SHOOTING MATCH
GET EVEN THE LAST SEEMINGLY WORTHLESS DETAIL IN WRITTING.
HIM AND HIS DAD ARE BOTH PATHOLOGICAL LIARS!!
MARK MY WORDS!
BTW THE WORD IS RETARD NOT RETART;UNLESS YOUR BAKING OLD COOKIES.
March 5th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
What credibility does the board have?
They said rasha Tendler I was suspended. He wasn’t.
And where is the petition to remove rasha Tendler I?
The word of the board means nothing.
March 5th, 2006 at 9:49 pm
i went to school with mordechai
i believe he is to be pitied more than hated
Although his behavior should be hated
All efforts/toil/strength should be put into exposing the truth
i think morty let his winky go out of control when the power went to his head
to be honest i am suprised he lasted this long
i would still be his very good friend once he was ejected from any type of power
in the mean time just keep working on getting him out!!
March 5th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
>i believe he is to be pitied more than hated
you may well knwo better (I am NOT being sarcastic) but I personally find it hard when he has ruined so many lives and made so many people miserable for so long (like father like son…)
March 5th, 2006 at 10:32 pm
We are not allowed to pity a rasha at the expense of his victims.
If rasha Tendler I wants our pity, HE MUST do teshuvah. He has not and must not be pitied. He must be fired, removed from our instiitutions and community.
March 5th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Resident of NH writes:
> Does anyone know why the board mailed us letters about suspending
> Rabbi Tendler when he was the Rabbi this Shabbos? What do they
> intend to do now, pretend they didn’t mail those letters and suspend
> him? Perhaps in the future they should be careful what they send out
> in the e-mails and mail, don’t you think?
The board did suspend him. For the first few days, it looked like they were willing to make tough decisions to enforce their decision. On Shabbat everything everything fell apart. I have no idea why.
I don’t know why the board decided to stand down for Shabbat. I hope that they are working on a restraining order, and chose not to fight Tendler until the restraining order is signed. I have no idea. However, I know that the board is very determined. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt for a few days to see what happens. March 9th (this Thursday) should be interesting, since it is the deadline for the board to respond to the beit din lawsuit from Tendler.
March 5th, 2006 at 10:45 pm
I think insider you giving them the benefit of the doubt is correct, the fight may be over the shul but the shul is not the place for the fight, it is still a bais mikdash me’at. So the fact they didn’t fight over what he did on shabbos only shows their respect for kdushas shabbos and kdushas hamakom, it has nothing to do with tendler.
March 5th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
To who responded to my wife’s post:
Channah wrote from her emotion. She wrote some things she should not have written. She did not ask me, but I apologize. Ishto K’gufo. You also write from your emotion, very much so.
Channah’s emotion is not fear of any kind - you are wrong. Her emotion is despair about how this could happen in the religious world. About how this has happened to people who we loved so much. We very much loved you, Adina, as you know. Channah’s emotion is also mixed with uncertainty and confusion. If this could happen, what is the path of truth?
We should bless HaShem daily that His Rachamim will overcome his anger. We should do the same. I learned this from rabbi Tendler. We should go in the way of HaShem. We still love you, and respect you what you are doing. It cannot be easy.
We did not choose to be in this mess. It was your visit that drew us into it. I do not blame you. It is from HaShem.
March 5th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
All these emotions….All these opinions…..When are you going to stage a protest outside this tyrants house. I live down the block from this putz and I’d be the first one to show up. His bitch wife sold me my house and proceeded to conveniently leave several details out of the sale that cost me $25,000. and when we confronted her she pulled that “I’m a Rabbi’s wife” shit. Like I could give a f*ck. Oh and I dont care if you people know how I am…..f*ck all of you. I hate each and everyone of you ballless f*cks. See me when you want to really do something about this asshole. I’m well schooled in dealing with pompous jerkoffs. You all make me sick. Drive this bastard out of town and be done with it….NOW! Before he sticks his penis of great yichus in another emotionally retarded baal teshuvah wench.
March 5th, 2006 at 11:57 pm
>I think insider you giving them the benefit of the doubt is
>correct,
The board deserves nothing. Not our trust, not our respect and certainly not our money.
Their word means as much as their suspension of rasha Tendler I, nothing.
March 6th, 2006 at 1:30 am
ATTENTION POSTERS
If you want to post links or e-mail address, you must put in spaces in links and spell out email addresses or the program auto deletes them. Example:
ht tp://dhengah.o rg/mbp/tendlervstendler.h tm
example email address:
IMAFOOLATKNHDOTORG
NH INSIDER
You and I would probably get along well. The cookie line was hysterical.
Who owns the KNH building? Can the board sell it to a new religious organization? Who is currently paying the water/gas/electric? Can someone post a copy of the charter and bylaws?? or are you gonna make go down to New City and pay .25¢/page for copies? Can board members be dumped or replaced by emergency elections?
And just for the record, it’s modern orthodoxy that is the cause for all those kids going off the derech, not the rabbonim that haven’t spoken out against one MO Rabbi. They included him with all the other MO Rabbis when they spoke about kedusha vtaharas klal yisroel. Case in point:
>>Brocton RD. Resident Says:
March 4th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
As far as Rabbi Schabes is concerned, everything in the world is an aveira.
……
He outlawed mixed seating at his shul’s dinner
>>
Just like it says in Shulchan Orech. It also says so in Igros Moshe in afew places just in case you thought you’d find a heter there.
March 6th, 2006 at 2:41 am
The board and the trustees are making great efforts to remove MT. They need your support and it would be helpful to send emails to Shlomo requesting the termination of MT. Professionally worded letters are best.
Keep in mind that the board does not wish to give MT any legal basis for a valid action against the shul. The removal will be in a very legal manner. Hopefully, giving MT no or little recourse.
The objective to to keep the community together after we have put this sick individual out to pasture. Keep the pressure up but don’t rant it just diminishes credability. The board dos need the support and is willing to sue any individuals that attempt to interfere with the process.
Fotunately, we have many capable lawyers who are just itching to sue any one necessary to complete the removal of MT.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:04 am
Steve, could you please remove the posts with with words like sh*t and f*ck on this page?
March 6th, 2006 at 4:23 am
Oh, let’s attack Modern Orthodoxy, shall we? Let’s ignore the Chassidim that go to Nyack on Friday nights and hang out in bars looking like the biggest idiots on the planet. Let’s ingore the Chassidim that the are worlds’ number one illiterate customers of cheap prostitutes. Stop blaming Modern Orthodoxy for people going off the derech. People go off the derech from all the different sub cultures of Orthodoxy. People come in. People go out. People come in, get shtupped by the rabbi in some cases, and then go out. That is not mordern orthodoxy you ” retart”. That is fuckanomics at work, which can be found in all religions. I found out I am not even Jewish so what the ding dong devil am I doing here?
March 6th, 2006 at 4:41 am
I am confused…there is no article on Tendler in the NY Post yesterday…..I don;t know what the source is for what is printed above as an article, but in checking the NY Post website there is no such article nor any in search/archives……was this article false or has the Tendler mafia succeeded in getting the NY Post to pull an article…..pretty impressive display of power if that is the case, purely in a Godfather definition..
March 6th, 2006 at 7:05 am
I read a very good book called Off the Derech, you can get it at Tuvya’s, and it is a very well written book about why kids and adults don’t stay religious. Modern orthodoxy, yeshivish, and chasidish were NOT stated as being the cause.
I apologize for my spelling mistake (retart), enough comments have been made about that, as if all of you who commented never made a mistake in your life either.
When you buy something, it is let the buyer beware. Especially when it comes to buying a house!!! I am sorry you feel that way about michelle, but you should have hired an engineer to check out your home. Her real estate business has nothing to do with Rabbi Tendler. What I dislike about her is that there is a special chair in shul that noone is allowed to sit in but her, the royal rebbitzen. I never saw that before in any shul, when I first came in there with my kids we were chased off her royal throne and it really gave me a bad taste. But again, this blog is not about her, right?
March 6th, 2006 at 7:06 am
Elya Shvei:
I am totally willing to stage a protest. Let’s start planning. I’ll contact New Hempstead News, and I want you and anyone else interested in protesting to contact that site as well - we’ll organize something within a certain deadline if the members of KNH are unable to oust the rasha. Looking forward to working with you!
March 6th, 2006 at 7:40 am
So big deal, what will a protest do, Tendler will make a counter protest and he’ll make a whole frabregen at KNH like he did last time, and it will be covered for everyone to see on television. More Chillul Hashem for everyone to see that New Hempstead is a place for nutty people!
March 6th, 2006 at 7:46 am
If you look at the history of our country, protests accomplish a lot. And keep in mind that all the good things that civilization has accomplished has been acquired with a great deal of human suffering.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:51 am
JEwishwhistleblower, I think you make some good points but to say the board doesn’t deserve our trust, I don’t agree it is even a matter of trust. Someone else was saying what he thought went on this past shabbos in the shul and I was commenting on that. You seem to say that the board was weak because tendler was there and so the suspension was meaningless. But that is probably not the whole story, as I said you could think it was nothing more than just common decency out of respect to the shul and had nothing to do with tendler.
Since I am here, I want to say that the first post on this page is disgusting, lady whoever you are, those feelings belong in a psychiatrist office not here. There is plenty of blame to go around, and probably the least of it on those people you cursed at. You don’t have to live in New hempstead to figure that out.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:54 am
How terrible it is to see different factions of observant Judaism attack each other. I know modern, yeshivish and chassidish children and adults that are off the derech. And I have knowledge of sexual abusers and predators from each of these groups. I haven’t read the aforementioned book (now I will), but I believe one of the problems is that the yeshivot from left to right have failed the children on many levels (not for discussion on this blog), as well as the corruption/abuse from within the rabbinate. Let’s start by getting rid of Rasha Tendler, and go from there.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:01 am
I like this talk about a protest. MORE HOT AIR. No one will have the nerve to protest Tendler in public. This blog is full of hot air of people saying what should be done by others. Tendler has more balls than the rest of you added together. Michelle also. They know how to operate and get things done. This blog is just a lot of hot air. Look at the board. What a bunch of pussies! Pussy Pomerantz being the biggest of all. What a cowardly little pussy man he is. Big talker. Small doer. Goes for the rest of the board also. You people suspended him and then meekly attended shul where he sat on the bima like Ha Melech HaMoshiach. How many of your wives has Tendler screwed? Is that why you stay at KNH? Because you are AFRAID people will find out? You are all full of fear. Pathetic bunch of losers old lady gossipers whose wives sleep with the phony fake rabbi of NH.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:29 am
The alleged story from the NY Post that was posted above does not exist at all in the NY Post website…not at all…..was this a false story on this website that no one checked, or has the Tendler mafia gotten to the NY Post? As a pure Godfather type accomplishment, that would be quite impressive…the NY Post is not some jewish rag of a publication, and if it pulled the story or never ran it at all that would say a great deal
March 6th, 2006 at 8:56 am
SIW: Insider is aka Fredie Brinn who has posted slandered about victims and threatening behavior in policing victims for Rabbi Mordecai Tendler. He is a friend of Channah and Mosha Leerman/Leermarkers. He and KNH like to claim they are “civil�, “reasonably exchange ideas only� since they don’t post and expose their bad language here; when in fact instead they use words for evil. Insider, aka Freddie Brinn and KNH kool aid clan, their words are worst then words used to describe what ChannahLerman and Mosha are, a piece of shit; which is in the English dictionary, not slang. Certainly it’s a reasonable exchange of words. The only difference between evil speech and damaging lying spearing words Freddie Brinn aka Insider use about victims, mine are dead on. Nothing reasonable about the Leerman/Leermarkers being a false witness and making false testimony to a blogs site and their KNH friends claiming she said, name calling, behaved, claiming what her intentions are, or that she did things she didn’t. This isn’t talk about the case as Insider justifies his slander and naming the victims. NO this is lying and damaging this victim even more. This is KNH who have speared and maligned victims/survivors to cover-up for their “Rav�; who now want to cover-up their responsibility by slandering victims’ even more. They are the sinners. KNH believed what ever Rabbi Mordecai Tendler told them, then to commit the worst sin they ostracized smeared women’s names and its ok to continue. Remember Insider aka Freddie Brinn posted on blogs his policing of Plaintiff stating her ware abouts and claims of things she was doing which wasn’t true, the only fact is she walked by that street. But somehow Insider sees himself as exchanging ideas and allowed to smear lies.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:15 am
Hey Zalman! You think Im the type to be scared to protest??? WRONG! You think Tendler and his wacky Baal Teshivah Crew can intimidate me? Wrong again. Its the rest of you ball-less pricks that worry about shidduchim, etc that wouldnt dare. A protest would show solidarity amongst those that are sick and tired of phony “krumkeit” and the meglomaniacs who run things. When you people are really ready to unite and show some guts than and only than will the right outcome to this tragedy take place. As far as Michelle goes, and this is to the genious that suggested that I hire an engineer before I bought my house: Moron! Unless your a silver spooner you need to have a mortgage, banks require a full inspection before they approve the mortgage. Tendler conveniently suggested the engineer and several KEY defects were CONVENIENTLY omitted. Why do I bring this up? Because people should know that she is as big a piece of shit as her husband is. Its time to take out the trash in New Hempstead and Waste Management cant handle this one, who’s with me?
March 6th, 2006 at 9:19 am
I can assure you that I have the nerve to protest in public.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:30 am
Diogenes Says:
> The alleged story from the NY Post that was posted above does not
> exist at all in the NY Post website…not at all…..was this a false story
> on this website
Nice try. But you are wrong.
The article is still listed on Google News. The title of the article is RANDY RABBI REELS.
...
The link to the full article is broken, but this could be a problem with the NY Post website. The article was definitely on the NY Post website and in the print edition.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:34 am
I read it in yesterday’s Post. It’s there. Nothing new was mentioned. Just the stuff about the RCA investigation.
Why does Rabbi Zimmerman need Board aproval to release the tapes ? Just release them. Once the world hears whatever is on them then we will can move towards closure.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:38 am
To the first poster on this thread! I am in the health business, I do not live in New Hempstead and am new to this blog…
Reading your post leads me to this conclusion ..
You need a lot of help and please please see a shrink ASAP
March 6th, 2006 at 9:42 am
The reason why the Board mailed letters this week about MT being suspended, and then allowing him to speak on Shabbos is because they are all COWARDS! How can any of you sit there and allow that rasha to speak about the weekly parsha as if nothing was wrong?!?!?!? How could you calmly sit there while this animal speaks to your wives and children?!?!? What the hell is wrong with you all?! You beg us for help to get him out, yet you cannot even leave the shul while he’s speaking? At least do that! Geez
March 6th, 2006 at 9:46 am
insider said:
>The board did suspend him. For the first few days, it looked like they >were willing to make tough decisions to enforce their decision. On >Shabbat everything everything fell apart. I have no idea why.
>I don’t know why the board decided to stand down for Shabbat. I hope >that they are working on a restraining order, and chose not to fight >Tendler until the restraining order is signed. I have no idea. However, I >know that the board is very determined. I am going to give them the >benefit of the doubt for a few days to see what happens. March 9th (this >Thursday) should be interesting, since it is the deadline for the board to >respond to the beit din lawsuit from Tendler.
insider, cut the crap we know who you and are and that YOU are on the board. just do what you need to do to get him out. start with a restraining order as we’ve been telling you for the past two weeks.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:49 am
To the Chanalerman lady with the foul mouth. Go find a support group. Go find as many doctors as you can. Find as many pills as you can. You need help. Your temper tantrums are like a childs with no sense. I don’t speak for anyone else but seeing your name above the post and your curses, I just skip over it. No one wants to be involved with sick people even anonymous on a blog so maybe change your name and you’ll get some better attention.
Now that you named ‘Insider’ I am 100% sure it is not who you said just because you siad it. This is what happens when a person destroys their ne’emonus by acting meshuga.
The Post article is in the paper how could you get a family to pull an article after it is printed? Isn’t that giving anyone a little too much credit? Someone with more time than me could scan it and post it as a jpeg, its not a big deal.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:52 am
You can read the Sunday Post article by just going to this link:
...
It is strange that it is no longer accesible through the NY POST website.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:57 am
This is going to be a strange Purim
If you dress up as Mordechai, you are really dressing up as Haman
March 6th, 2006 at 10:01 am
NH Insider
That will be the ultimate Venahapach Hu.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:02 am
blower of Tendler’s whistle writes:
> we know who you and are and that YOU are on the board
Untrue. But if it makes you feel good to believe it, then I won’t interfere with your fantasy.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:16 am
jewish whistle blower does know crap. word is he lives in toronto . his facts are rarely correct. i would be glad to meet and have my debate with him publically moderated to show him up. what a coward, hiding without disclosing himself. probably a lowlife for sure.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:35 am
# Outsider Says:
I can assure you that I have the nerve to protest in public.
So, no one is stopping you. Why don’t you start by telling us your name?
March 6th, 2006 at 10:58 am
The KNH website has been updated again. The scrambled text was removed.
March 6th, 2006 at 11:17 am
>jewish whistle blower does know crap.
Huh?
>word is he lives in toronto .
No JWB is 100% American.
>his facts are rarely correct.
Please link or quote.
>i would be glad to meet and have my
>debate with him publically moderated
>to show him up.
This forum is moderated, do your best.
>what a coward, hiding without disclosing
>himself. probably a lowlife for sure.
And your name?
March 6th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
I don’t know which fucking moron called attention to the ’scrambled’ text on the KNH homepage. It’s just Hebrew that didn’t render correctly. It says, “Mishenichnas adar marbim b’simcha.” Jeez. You people read something profound and evil into every hiccup that goes on around that shul.
So what’s going to be with Purim? Who’s davening at the shul? Who’s bringing their kids to the youth activity there?
March 6th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
> I don’t know which [] moron called attention to the ’scrambled’ text on
> the KNH homepage. […] You people read something profound and evil
> into every hiccup that goes on around that shul.
No one said anything about profound or evil. I only said that it was garbage/scrambled text that was posted on the website.
Yours truly,
DavidD font master
March 6th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
> So what’s going to be with Purim? Who’s davening at the shul?
> Who’s bringing their kids to the youth activity there?
Yesterday was the KNH Purim Carnival. From what I am told, only 5 families showed up. Can anyone confirm?
I am also told that the carnival magician’s bird pooped on the floor in the middle of the show. It seems that the bird was making a statement about the current situation in KNH.
March 6th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A PROTEST, but not in front of Tendler’s house or KNH. We should have a protest in front of the home of a big Rabbi here in monsey, with picket signs that say HELP SAVE NH, HOW CAN YOU REMAIN SILENT!!! Maybe that would get them to open up their mouths? But I forget, there is no big Rabbi here that is big enough for Tendler to listen to. Hey, for that matter, let’s go to Washington for a big protest/ralley and make a little trip out of it? I could use a vacation away from holy NH! UGH, I am embarresed to tell people I live here!!!
As far as people cursing and ranting and raving, if it gets it out of their system and they are nicer to their wives and children, I say FIRE AWAY, it’s a free country, I will just skip over your ramblings if you don’t mind!
March 6th, 2006 at 1:43 pm
Maybe the bird carries the bird flu, that’s one way to get rid of Tendler!
March 6th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
i think a community protest outside the home of “mordy the masturbating rabbi” would send a message that molesting women is unnacceptable behavior not just for a rabbi but for anyone. the mere fact that we are debating the merits of a protest speaks volumes about our morals. do we have no values? is there really a shailah here? how about sakunas nefushos, how many poor innocent ex kool aide drinking tendler freaks are contimplating suicide because they think the community supports this “penis of great yichus”? someone should ask rabbi schabes if exposing a serial sexual terrorist is against halacha….in his convoluted world it probably is. the problem with YOU people is that you are followers, sheep, who need some asshole with a hat and beard to tell you what to do. if you took the time to do a little research youd almost always know what the right thing to do is. take a lesson from the “great” reb elya…..when YU was letting in fags, what did he do? he made a rockin speach that not only ripped Greenberg, but his wife Blue….it was some off the wall shit but he was all over it and I respect him for that. step up people and lets take this dirtbag out….as for you MordyMonster……u need to thank the lord everyday u never fucked with me, cause theyd still be finding your bodyparts. LOL……Later freaks.
March 6th, 2006 at 2:52 pm
Resident of NH
Comparison to One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest might be appropriate
March 6th, 2006 at 3:04 pm
LOL ploni, I like that one!
March 6th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
Play the tapes already! Give the transcripts to the POST, Jewish Week or Forward. That is the only way to end this !
March 6th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
TO ELYA SHVEIY (oiy vey!?!) Yes, we do have morals, it’s just that those of us who have morals picked themselves up and ran from KNH. Also, the community does not support Rabbi Tendler, they know his number. When the Rabbonim made the mikvah on viola rd. they excluded his majesty, that is why he got mad and decided to make his own mikveh, which he couldn’t get off the ground because noone would support him from the community. (Remember that pathetic sign he had hanging in front of the shul that his mikvah would be ready in 2001 or something, haha!!) The Rabbi’s here don’t support him, but they are silent in order to save their own behinds. Disgusting.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
What is Rabbi Bronspigel’s opinion of the Rabbi Tendler issue????
March 6th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
Resident….as Ive mentioned previously, Ive lived a block away from “masturbating mordy” for the last 7 years….I go to shul (not his, pompous assholes have always turned me off) every shabbos. Ive heard all the opinions and Ive listened with disgust as the “do gooders” darshen about the right way to handle this. bottom line is….there really isnt a “right” way to deal with this. a protest would be great because it would show solidarity and it would dispel the myth that NH is fragmented. No one with a brain should be on the fence on this issue….if it was only 1 or 2 wack jobs that made allegations, maybe….but i refuse to believe that upwards of 14 women are colluding on this. the “randy rabbi’s” ego is the only thing thats keeping him from doing the right thing, and thats crawling into some hole in the israel. im still on board with the protest idea….lets let this horny freak know hes not wanted here…..and that we could give a shit whether or not hes reb moshes grandson.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
I hereby predict THERE WILL BE NO PROTEST. No one has the guts to do it. You big talkers don’t even sign your names to the blogs, so I know for certain that you will not show your face in a protest.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
Protests do nothing anyway. What you need is just a public outcry from every angle. Release the tapes and you will accomplish more than any protest.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
wow kalman…you are going out on a limb there….can i go to vegas with you for march madness? if anyone of you were serious about a protest i would be there. most of you who live in NH and read this have a pretty good idea of who i am. so im not doing a great job of hiding my identity. for those of you who need a better clue….im a pretty good golfer, lol!
March 6th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Elya: You are a poker player also, correct?
March 6th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
Elya, Kalman,
Can we get back to the topic!
March 6th, 2006 at 4:49 pm
If all the Rabbi’s in New Hempstead come to the protest in front of KNH , I will come also. I’ll even bring my dog (good place for him to defecate, now that they spruced up the front….) In the meantime the Rabbi’s are all telling us to shut up about the whole mess.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:55 pm
JEWISH WHISTLE IS A LIAR. DOES NOT LIVE IN THE AREA AND HAS NO CONTACTS. BEEN READING HIS BLOG. HIS STRATEGY S INANE. HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED. TALKS ABOUTTHE BOARD. HE KNOWS NOONE ON THE BOARD. NOONE ON THE BOARD GIVES HIM INFO. TALKS ABOUT NO SUSPENSION. WHAT A JERK. HE NEVER SAW THE SUSPENSION LETTER. PETITION. WHAT PETITION? IS IT REQUIRED FOR WHAT THE BOARD DID?. JWB IS JERK WITH NO CREDIBILITY. A CLOSET COMPLAINER WITH NO LIFE.
WHY DISCLOSE? WHAT DOES ANYONE NEED HM FOR? HE’S GOT NOTHING.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:56 pm
Anyone have inside info on Hillel Tendler of Baltimore?
March 6th, 2006 at 5:01 pm
Hey JWB. Why don’t you come protest in frontof the Shul this week. Tell us the time. Be a man of your word. Such a big issue for you. Put your money where your mouth is.
You would never show up
A closet coward. Of that you are convincing.
You are living in Canada and get all you info from the blog.
What a reporter of info.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:26 pm
Kalman Zalman is a tough guy. A tough talker. Why do you need others to protest. You lead. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Words with no action. You are the type of person that allow this mess to get out of control. You did nothing but anonymously complain. You deserve a medal . . . . . . .
for being a pussy.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
Looks like I have a new fan. No posts of interest or true facts, but at least he/she fixed their Caps Lock problem.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
I agree with JWM Blows. Why doesnt JWB go protest this week. The fact is JWB Blows is right , JWB has no facts. The only fan he needs is one to blow the sh*t away from your mouth.
It is probably true, JWB knows noone on the Board and has never spoken to anyone on the Board and has never seen anything from the Board. True fact.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
kalman….im NOT who you think I am….Im younger, taller and better looking, lol. but you are on the right track, lol. anyway back to the point, ive been reading up on aron tendler and his misdeeds in LA and i find some striking simularities. both mordy and his bro seem to like to take advantage of the vulnerable, mordy with divorcees and AT with young girls from broken homes. these guys arent really about the sexual gratification, its the power trip that gets them off. just knowing from where they come from it all makes sense. they cant control the need to be in total control. the stupid fucks who support them are feeding this sick insatiable habit. the more you give these meglomaniacs koved and respect the more you empower them. protesting in front of 653 union and showing mordy how we really feel about him would knock him down a peg and back to reality. once there he would see how silly and pointless it is to fight the inevitable and hopefully hed go off to the holy land like so many other perverts before him. the more support the retards at KNH support him the more he feels like he can beat this thing.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:46 pm
btw….im soooo happy i found this blog. i finally feel like im not the only one with a brain in NH. thanks!
March 6th, 2006 at 5:47 pm
Is Stephen Weiss Shimmy Weiss from New Hempstead and living in Michele Tendler brother’s house.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Rabbi Hillel Tendler - Attorney (son of Moshe Tendler, brother of both Aron and Mordecai Tendler)
Chairman of the Board - Torah Institute, Baltimore, MD ...
Board of Directors - Sinai Hospitial, Baltimore, MD ...
March 6th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
hillel tendler is son of moshe dovid and brother of aron and mordy and is a master public liar- but i guess that is redundant!
March 6th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
Look, if you had brother’s like Mordy and Aron, what would you do? It’s gotta be a horrible place to be to have two of your brother’s accused of being sex offenders.
Can anyone provide us all with a list of all the names of the children of Rav Moshe and Shifra Tendler?
1. Mordecai Tendler
2. Aron Boruch Tendler
3. Hillel Tendler
Who else is there?
March 6th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
4. Yaakov Tendler, MD (Monsey, NY)
March 6th, 2006 at 6:17 pm
Hey, I am not the one calling for a protest. I am merely commenting that those people on this blog who make big plans never do anything other than post on the blog. and, yes, I am a tough guy. Better hope you never have to deal with me.
March 6th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Elya Shvei;
I’ll see you Friday night in shul and rate your Rantings
March 6th, 2006 at 6:35 pm
5. Russie Tendler (don’t know her married name)
March 6th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
6. Mrs. Rappaport (runs or ran a school in Israel) - I think her first name might be Aviva.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:14 pm
Just my 2 cents, but this is why this man has been a rav all these years even with all that he has been doing and will continue. You have people here saying lets make a protest. Other people saying lets make a list. What good are these things? They are great if your goal is to make protests and lists. For the protesters and list makers this is a great blog. But for the people serious about getting this man tendler out of his shul forget it. This is a disaster. No organization. No plan. He has lawyers and press agents, you’ve got who knows how many women who say they slept with this man, with tapes and more tapes, but you can’t get him out.
And thats another problem. Some say 9 women, some say 14, some say 19. Each one with a pekel, each one with plenty of reasons why they are a problem to believe theri story. So combine all this nonsense that is not focused on proving his guilt, and that’s why he is able to continue on. These women are easily manipulated, even after tendler made them victims, the Rca did it all over again by using them to prove they cleaned house after Lanner. So these women, none of which whose bulb shines too bright to begin with, all running around, dancing like that old arab lady cackling on tv after the towers fell on 9-11. Just one problem, they haven’t done anything yet. No one has.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
I read this and I thought of Mordecai. I think there’s a message here for him ...
March 6th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
What about all the geirus RMT performed ? Will they now be deemed invalid?
March 6th, 2006 at 7:35 pm
Is it true that Aviva won’t have anything to do with her father, including several other relatives? I heard rumors about that.
If it’s true, does anyone know why?
March 6th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Is Russie and Aviva the same person?
March 6th, 2006 at 7:47 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if Aviva won’t have anything to do with her father, heard from a lady that went to high school with her that she was a very unhappy young woman and that she had problems with her family.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
I also wondered if Russie and Aviva are the same person. Does anyone out there know?
Also, does anyone know who the woman is that is Mordecai Tendler’s first cousin that was involved in a romantic relationship with him?
March 6th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Elyala you’re embarrassing me again. You didnt take your pill. We all know why your against Tendler. Your jealous of people with famous fathers. Now be a goob boy and take your medication. And next time you play golf without me Ill tell Rocky to take care of you once and for all.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:58 pm
You talking about his twin cousins the Schisgal’s? Back in the 1960’s the girls posed for Penthouse Magazine.
I heard the only relative they still talk to is Mordecai. Don’t know if it’s true or not but it’s what I’ve heard from several people.
FYI: The majority of individuals who get involved in the porn industry are survivors of child abuse and neglect. ...
March 6th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
Can anyone please tell me the name of the restaurant that Mrs. Hirschorn,( the one who ran around with the pro-Tendler petition) would meet Mordy Tendler on a regular basis?
March 6th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
“So these women, none of which whose bulb shines too bright”
um???? well considering “they don’t have a bulb that shines to bright”, they sure have gotten a lot of media attention.
I’m sorry you are feeling so intimidated by the fact that the truth is getting exposed, and the Tendler family secret is out in the open. I’m so sorry to tell you that you have two relatives that are “alleged” sex offenders. It’s time to stop covering up for them, and time to get them the best possible treatment.
I also wonder if there’s other “alleged” sex offenders in the family, that we still are not aware of. We already know about you cousin by marriage (Matis Weinberg) ...
We also know about the problem with there being a group that allegedly raped boys at Ner Israel in Baltimore, back in the days that Matis hug out there.
Does anyone know if this is how and where Ephraim Bryks got started with his “alleged” molesting career? ...
March 6th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
Someone should make a police report on the following comments:
# Reb Shmuel Says:
March 6th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Elyala you’re embarrassing me again. You didnt take your pill. We all know why your against Tendler. Your jealous of people with famous fathers. Now be a goob boy and take your medication. And next time you play golf without me Ill tell Rocky to take care of you once and for all.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:26 pm
As A Doctor, I am asking any Victims that are looking at this blog.
Can you post any definite birthmarks anywhere on MT’s body…
so that Michelle can now know that she is not the only one that has seen them!
March 6th, 2006 at 8:33 pm
survivor….relax….its all in good fun. No need to make police reports, nobody is hurting anyone here. reb shmuel, i think you have me confused with someone else, my father is pretty famous, maybe u heard of him? he’s jesus ‘fucking’ christ. as for my meds, i have a personal preference for percocet, the opiates help me forget i live in this g-d forsaken hell hole. reb shmuel, its people like you that are driving me to the brink…..the do-gooding, excuse making, phony, wannabe frummy frums that walk up and down brockton with their cholent bellies, tiny glasses and black hats tilted to the side acting like their lives are actually signifigant. these are the moronic losers who make excuses for a nasty fuck like “masturbating mordy” because they dont want to chas v’sholom make waves…i mean lord help them if someone thinks they have b
March 6th, 2006 at 8:37 pm
cont….balls, it might farshtehr their kids shidduchim. when are you people going to realize that it is YOU who created this monster by doling out phony baloney kavod. its the same as with david schick who up until the feds sent his ass to jail was getting all kinds of kibudim in flatbush or that whore monger shulem weiss who is some sort of sick chassidisha folk hero. your twisted value system is what enables these sociopaths. commercial orthodoxy is a pox on judaism, the faster you shleppers realize it the better off you will all be and the less we will hear of the “rancid randy rabbi”.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:44 pm
Holy Shrink
THAT IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA!!!
In fact I have heard he has a raisin sized penis
with 2 peanut sized testicles
there is a tatoo on the penis that says “welcome to jamica have a nice day”
when he is aroused
It says Wendy when he is not.
I promise!! just ask Michelle
btw
Wendy was a college fling
March 6th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
this just in!!! KNH authorized penile implants for the rancid rabbi as part of his “expenses”. not for nothing, but have u seen some of mordys victims? those are some of the homely-ess lookin bitches ive ever seen. the man has a taste for butt ugliness. i hate to say it but after looking at michelle i see a real trend here.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Message to BE:
The state of Nebraska ring a bell to you?
March 6th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
ELYA!!!!
THE RANCID RANDY RABBI!!??
YOU MAKE ME LAUGH SO HARD
I HAVE LIVED HERE IN MONSEY FOR 47 YEARS
I NEVER HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT ABOUT A TENDLER
DIDN’T YOU KNOW THEY ARE A HOLY PEOPLE, THAT WE ARE A HOLY PEOPLE.
I REALLY BELIEVE WE ARE A HOLY PEOPLE
EVERYBODY ON THIS BLOG IS HOLY
EVEN MT…. OR ESPECIALY MT
HE MUST HAVE BEEN UNDER SOME HEAVY DUTY PRESSURE TO HAVE
ACTED SO STUPIDLY.
AND NOW HE HAS HELL ON EARTH (MAYBE HE REALLY DOESN’T THINK HE IS IN TROUBLE)
MAYBE HE IS PHYSCOLOGICALY SO OUT OF REALITY HE THINKS HE WILL GET OUT OF THIS ONE JUST LIKE HE GOT OUT OF SO MANY ISSUES BEFORE THIS.
HONESTLY I THINK HE IS A HOLY PERSON, I THINK HE BECAME SICK AND TWISTED.
I HOPE HE WILL COME TO MY HOUSE FOR CHULENT AND LAUGH ABOUT THIS ONE DAY WHEN HE IS RELIEVED OF HIS DUTIES.
LOOKING AT MT I DON’T KNOW IF EVER HAD AGOOD LAUGH IN HIS WHOLE LIFE!!
CAN YOU IMAGINE? WHAT A SHAME… HE REALLY IS A KIND SOUL.
HE WORKED TIRELESSLY 14 HR DAYS HELPING ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE
AND JUST BECAUSE HE WAS SO HORNY HE MADE SOME BAD DECISIONS.
HE SHOULD HAVE USED A PROSTITUTE LIKE MOST OF THE MEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
A COUPLE OF GOOD LAP DANCES AT T & A’s THAT WOULD HAVE RELAXED HIM AND HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE NEXT GADOL HADOR
ALL JOKES ASIDE I THINK HE IS A KINDHEARTED WELL MEANING RABBI.
I WOULD NEVER LET HIM NEAR MY WIFE, BUT I WOULDN’T LET MOST MEN ALONE WITH MY WIFE.
YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO (AL PI HALACHA)
I GUESS IT’S A GOOD THING MORDY WASN’T A GYNOCOLOGIST.
HOW DO WE LET OUR WIVES GO TO GYNOCOLOGISTS?
COME ON GUYS DON’T YOU FEEL A LITTLE INEPT WHEN THEY GO ?
I BET THE WOMEN FEEL VIOLATED SOMEHOW HOWEVER SLIGHTLY
ESPECIALY THE FIRST 50 TIMES.
OK
KEEP ME LAUGHING GUYS
ANYWAY KEEP ME LAUGHING!!!!!!
March 6th, 2006 at 9:24 pm
Okay, does anyone have anything sane to say? I met Russie Tendler when she was in Stern college many years ago, very sweet girl.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:29 pm
I VOLUNTEER TO GIVE FREE THERAPY TO ALL OF MT’S DAUGHTERS
AS A JEW I HAVE A CHEZKAS KASHRUS
HE CAN TRUST ME.
IT’S NOT YICHUD
IT’S THERAPY
March 6th, 2006 at 9:30 pm
When someone is a survivor of sexual violence there are certain types of behaviors (symptomology) that they may display, especially when they are under a great deal of pressure. The behaviors are extremely common for someone who is experiencing rape trauma syndrome (which is a form of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder).
One of the things that helps most survivors is when PTSD symptoms pop out, to take a step back, and regroup. If you don’t do this, then you remain in the “victim” role, and healing can NEVER take place. It’s vitally important for a survivor involved in a court case to take as many breaks as possible from following what’s happening in the news and or on blogs. Remaining cool, calm and collected will help your court case.
Reading articles about their case, and also reading blog entries can trigger individuals to say things and behave in ways that would not normally occur. Please, if you or someone you know is a survivor of a sex crime, please help them by keeping them off of blogs, and also by NOT baiting them into discussions.
I urge survivors of all cases NOT to read blogs. If a survivor feels they need to, it should only be done when they are with their rape counselor and or a trusted friend.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
who cares about russie tendler? i want some damn details on what the rancid randy rabbi did to his victims. other than fondeling them…did he have sex? did he use condoms? what are his fetishes? he seems like the golden shower type but…hey! thats just my crazy imagination. come on people…..let me hear something freaky!
March 6th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
Reb Elya, I am suprised that a big Rav like you still likes to hear all the details … I though you were 80 years old ….
March 6th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
Info on Rape Trauma Syndrome: ...
March 6th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
JewishSurvivors writes:
> You talking about his twin cousins the Schisgal’s? Back in the 1960’s
> the girls posed for Penthouse Magazine.
You got the rumor slightly wrong. Many years ago, a rumor arose that Tendler’s twin cousins posed for Playboy. The rumor was proven untrue, I am told. Anyone wanting to confirm the rumor could probably do so easily, since most major magazines probably have all their back-issues available online at this point (which was certainly not the case 10+ years ago when the rumor was started).
A Google search of “Schisgal twins Playboy” and “Schisgal twins Penthouse” does not return anything meaningful.
March 6th, 2006 at 9:44 pm
About the twin cousins of mordy, they posed in the 80’s not the 60’s and they visit their mother ,reb moshe’s daughter, on the lower east side from time to time. . If mordy is one of the few relatives that still talk to the two HO’s its probably because the two of them, yakov and mordy were probably all abused by the same person.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
of course peolpe will try to say all the rumors are not true!!!
who would want people to believe Reb moshe’s granddaughters posed for playboy? definitely not the Feinstein clan. they like to cover up or help cover up the doings of depraved people!!!!!!
March 6th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
In order for me to properly poskin here I need all the gory and not so gory details.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Dear Rabbi Suede,
I am appalled by your cave man language. It is not even befitting a Ben Torah umada. how dare you criticize me for being a hater of G-d when you use such language. It is both inexcusable and naughty. Even if you do possess daat torah, which has never been scientifically proven, this is not an excuse. If anything, it is all the more reason you should conduct yourself with a modicum of decoricum.
With friendship and trepidation,
Nochum’ke
March 6th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
Surviver what in the holy litvisha rosh yashivas name pissed you off so much. My fun with my partner elya is going completly over you BT head.
Chill out hunny! Elya baby what u talkin about MT and the grubba tuchases, AM the nebich vic is skinny like a witches broom.
And Ella u know ur a crazy old retard now but u never made so much sense. Cant wait to hear you speak before Niella again.
yaya
March 6th, 2006 at 10:31 pm
Elya remember Im the posik your the rosh yashiva.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Speaking of BT’s how many frummies these days are BT”s ? 50% ??
March 6th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
reb shmuel….did u ever think there would come a day when reb moishe, z’tl’s ainekel would occupy the same page as brittany spears in the NY POST!!! rachmunah l’tzlun…..it mamish fahrshtered my bekiyus seder this afternoon. im going to have to ask the shvehr for some more money for a new lexus that might help me shteig a bissel. i tell you people we are mamish a d’or yossum. instead of a protest i propose we gather at ohr sameach and do a tehillim-athon. what do u say?…….shir hamalos mimamakim krusicha……..
March 6th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
And by the way none of your bocharim those herring bellied black hatted yeshiva guys ever stepped foot in KNH. So really one rant at a time. Dont confuse the BT’s mit unzerer.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Reb El u might even be able to speak a great idea!!!!!!! But shouldnt we be saying tehilim for all the nebech aishes ishes that cheated on thier husbands and had sex with the rabbi. The poor manipulated souls.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:43 pm
as an ffb i can tell you that the infiltration of BT’s on mainstream orthodoxy is akin to bubonic plague of long ago. these interlopers have infected our society with their neediness and their willingness to accept cults like lubavitch, tendler, ohr sameach etc as the gospel. there was a reason that many rabbonim, real rabbonim, from back in the day frowned upon the baal teshuvah movement. these people come to our communities with much psychological and emotional baggage and spread their weirdness like some sort of bad disease. i for one avoid them at all costs.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:45 pm
its really too bad we dont have sota anymore….i for one would pay to see that exhibition…can u imagine? lol
March 6th, 2006 at 10:45 pm
I of course dont read the Post (only the inquirer) but a bochur told me that the next day the Post reported that Madonna is moving to Israel. Maybe she can manipulate Tendler to move there too.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Reb Elya you yourself was always against Kiruv. you said it caused people to be mikariv to the richokim! How true with Mordy T. You’re mamash a navi. I knew I should let you have all the kavod
March 6th, 2006 at 10:53 pm
reb shmuel….never mention the word manipulate and masturbating mordy in the same sentence! it could trigger some kind of adverse reaction from a victim that reads this blog according Ms. Polin. since i actually live on the same block as the rancid rabbi id prefer not to be hit by any stray bullets. u know…come to think of it…..do any of these women take responsibilty for being stupid or are they just going to be typical and play victim? last i checked none of these dumb ho’s were under 21 and we have people like vicki polin pleading their case like they are mentally handicapped. agreed tendler is a scum bag but no rape took place here and these women are culpable. i swear…some people got more excuses than a nigga going to jail. buck up and be an adult for crissakes. excuses are for losers!
March 6th, 2006 at 10:54 pm
Reb Shmuel….thanks to you Ive changed my name.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:58 pm
Tierer Reb Elya, Ich hub kein mul nisht toem gevehn taam chet!
ober der mamzer Mordcha hut ge patched mein Veibs tuchas …
vos zull ich teen yezt?
March 6th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Elya,
I can’t stop laughing
March 6th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
Mamesh hust gepatched arein de tuches?
Innervainig?
uder nisht?
March 6th, 2006 at 11:03 pm
I resent the fact that you think BT’s are like the bubonic plague. Since joining the yeshiva world, I have learned that, contrary to the idyllic socieity presented by Artscroll, the FFB world is filled with crooks, liars, back stabbers, wife beaters, ho fuckers, wife-swappers, cheats, fatsos, greaseballs, slidebutts, VD-infected borsalino wearing shiny pants smalldicks who make it with their guatamalan skankmaids and the butt ugliest women this side of Tendler’s semen stained recliner. I just love 30 year old women who dress like old ladies black potato sacks, side way sheitels, seamed stockings, no hair and coke bottle glasses. Yummy.
March 6th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
NH INSIDER
ich red nur ze Reb Elya, veil ehr is a Rav ..
Dee bist nur a groiser chazer
March 6th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
Rav Mudche vais vus is git
Un dahn veibs tuches is mamesh foon oylam habba
March 6th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Reb NH Insider, vilst sherayim?
March 6th, 2006 at 11:07 pm
BT
well said!!
but my guatamalon shank maid is the best.
you BT’s don’t know what your missing
March 6th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
Holy Shrink
Ich shoin gehadt
ubber Ich ken hubben a sach mer
Ich hub a groisse
March 6th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
Once again, this thread has become a joke. So long folks. I’ll check back again in a week or so (or sooner, if there is something major to report).
March 6th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
Hey Insider 11:08
What’s wrong with having a little laugh once in a while?
Chill out ,will yeh?
March 6th, 2006 at 11:16 pm
Holy Shrink vas tutsich da. ich bin da poisik! un mayn tata iz given di poisik hador. di ershta zach iz, du zulst vissin dos iz nisht dain shuld. ich main az dayn numin shrink hut ganisht tzu tan mit di matziv min dayn klayna dickala. Zurg zich nist. Geb zi tzvay fraskas un ruf mich murgin
March 6th, 2006 at 11:18 pm
rabbosai….ich hub mul gehert a maisah vegen de tuchusin foon de vaibilich in monsey, ir hakodesh. reb holy shrink….dein vibas tuchus iz nit royeh l’achlilas kelev. MUTAR!
BT!! some BT u are using such nival peh!!! does your “rabbi” at ohr someach know what your up to? listen pisher…while i was learning rashbuhs and ritvas u were still eating chazzer. so dont lecture me, when you know as much as i do u can comment…until then? go grab a seat at the BACK of the bus
March 6th, 2006 at 11:22 pm
Insider this thread became a joke as soon as KNH let Tendler come and act as rov this weekend!! THe BT stuff hurts but is true. It is our nissayan.
March 6th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
And Insider thank you so much for the very important “report” about Palyboy and Penthouse. You are a very sophisticated blogger.
March 6th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
Hey, I may be a BT, but I met those Tendler cousin skanks. What a pair of freaks. And they did pose for Penthouse.
March 6th, 2006 at 11:48 pm
Yes, elya, you are right. while you were stheiging away at night seder I was out with my main budds drinking beer, smoking pot and screwing dozens of good looking shiksas on a weekly basis. It was fun! Still, I traded that for a room in a yeshiva dorm with two masturbating pimply faced slack backed pot bellied boring yeshiva bochurs. I guess that proves that BT’s really are nuts.
March 7th, 2006 at 12:01 am
BT…..dozens??? you expect me to believe that? dont fake the funk, son. btw….i smoked plenty of weed in yeshiva, and did pills, and dropped tabs of E….all in the name of limud hatorah and shteig we did. we had plenty of fun in brisk and i had those thick juicy peyes behind my ears. what did you and your buds have? probably some sort of crazy tshup. i would love to hear your incredibly inspiring story of how you became frum against all odds….the trials and tribulations are sure to keep my shiny polyester yeshiva pants riveted to my seat. maybe when i have nothing better to do i can read your awe inspiring autobiography about mesiras nefesh. is the sentiment getting across? im getting a wee bit tired of all the cliches about frumkeit. YECHI ADONEINU MOREINU MASTURBATING MORDY MELECH HAMOSHIACH L’OLAM V’ED!
March 7th, 2006 at 12:30 am
OMEIN OMEIN SELAH
March 7th, 2006 at 2:05 am
ONCE AGAIN ATTENTION POSTERS
If you want to post links or e-mail address, you must put in spaces in links and spell out email addresses or the program auto deletes them.
Example:
ht tp://dhengah.o rg/mbp/tendlervstendler.h tm
example of email address:
IMAFOOLATKNHDOTORG
IF YOU DO NOT USE THIS FORMAT YOUR LINK WILL NOT APPEAR
nachzor l’inyanayni,
It seems the Post story was removed. It does not show up in any searches of the archives.
>>a rumor arose that Tendler’s twin cousins posed for Playboy.
The rumor was proven untrue
Googling won’t prove diddly. Most actresses use screen names,
al achas cama v’cama porn actresses, That don’t want guys like
you searching public databases for their addresses and showing
up on their doorstep. I am relatively certain the story is true. I’m sorry
I can’t provide you with a copy of the centerfold. But I was never a subscriber. (Didn’t pick it up on the news stand either) Mordy may have back issues. To seek out more embarassments to R’Moshe Z”L serves no purpose. He had talmidim that went off the derech too, the most famous is Jackie Mason (Mazza) Reb Bernard Mazza’s brother. So what? Moshe Rabbainu had Talmidim that went of the derech too.
Rabbi Dr. M.D. Tendler has 8 children. My sister was in Russie’s class in
YSV in the early 70’s. I attended CSM in the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s.
I knew all the Tendler boys even before they got married. I don’t believe naming and checking up on all the other children will further the cause of getting rid of MT.
Understand this is particularly painful for me because I remember MT walking in R’ Moshe’s ZT”L shadow for over a decade. (R’ Moshe used to come to Monsey for Yom Tov.) MT had a much more t’mimusdika look on his face then. I kinda get the creeps looking at him now.
As I posted before, If you look in Igros Moshe E”H IV, s.66, the question speaks volumes and may be the earliest warning sign on record.
If you don’t remember the swimming pool under the parking lot of YSV on the corner of Maple and 306; or the Community Synagouge of Monsey before they added on to the original house, (When the shabbos goy still lived upstairs); or the shul’s (CSM) first sukkah made of dark green 4×8 panels; or flocks of sheep off of Old Nyack Turnpike, in the days when it still went straight through to the throughway entrance; Then you weren’t here in Monsey before me.
March 7th, 2006 at 2:26 am
1) Hillel Tendler lost his position at a major Baltimore law firm due to a complaint to the firm ethics committee that he was actively interfering in a civil divorce proceeding and attempting to force the husband not only to abandon the civil divorce proceeding but to move the proceeding to a bet din in Israel. He was actually attempting to force a Get, along with his brother Mordechai, while the woman was refusing to consent with the divorce in civil court. Sound familiar? The complainant was actually a Tendler cousin, no less. Hillel has since been in very low key private practice in Baltimore.
2) Moshe Tendler has a sister, who resided in Monsey, that he placed in cherem because she got divorced and therefore disgraced the family reputation as The Perfect Role Model for Donations Far and Wide. Bad for business, you understand. There has been no contact between them in over 40 years.
3) The story of the twin sister cousins in a pornographic magazine is a dreadful falsehood, and simply indicative of the long term jealousy that permeates the bizarre world of orthodox judaism where rumors are permitted to run rampant because direct fact checking and newspaper/journal reading is discouraged or deemed sinful.
3) The two sisters living in Israel are Rivka Rappaport, not Adina as mistakenly noted above repeatedly. She ran a school in Jerusalem named after herself that ran into financial irregularities and mismanagement, and she was forced to step down by the Ministry of Education. The school still bears her name but she is no longer involved. She is starting a new school with a clean slate this coming year.
March 7th, 2006 at 2:40 am
OK here’s some of the tape contents
As far as the contents of the tapes, here’s one:
The “victim” who is recording the converstaion, calls MT and tells him how much she enjoyed last nights pleasures, MT tells her that the line is not secure she should call back on a different line. When the Rabbonim confronted him with the tape, MT admitted that he said that, but he was only playing along. “If the caller said he was Moshiach I would play along too.”
Maybe get a van and drive around NH on Purim playing the tapes on the loud speakers?
March 7th, 2006 at 5:08 am
MT of NH. Masturbating Tendler of New Hempstead.
March 7th, 2006 at 7:23 am
Vicki revealed that “plaintiff” is the writer of the foul-language posts. One cannot fight corruption with corruption and salvation will not come from a drunken Irishman. Support the board!
March 7th, 2006 at 8:19 am
I wish Vicki was not so obcene
Children see these postings
and then they become victims
then I have to send them to Tendler for advice
then they become victims
then Vicki writes about them
then they see this blog then they become victimss
March 7th, 2006 at 8:36 am
> If you look in Igros Moshe E�H IV, s.66, the question speaks volumes and
> may be the earliest warning sign on record.
And the question is…..?
March 7th, 2006 at 9:10 am
REGARDING URLS AND E-MAIL ADDRESSES:
The program doesn’t delete them, it truncates them into a hyperlinked “…”
This is necessary to keep formatting working properly with long URLs being dumped into the comments. Of course, URLs wouldn’t have to be dumped at all if you’d bother to turn the URLs into links yourselves.
DO NOT FOLLOW THE READERS’ ADVICE TO PUT SPACES INTO URLS AND E-MAIL ADDRESSES; THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT.
Thank you.
March 7th, 2006 at 9:29 am
Mr. Weiss, no one on this blog knows what they are talking about. But you have to admit, Reb Elya and his pals are a riot. Shkoyach!
March 7th, 2006 at 9:37 am
TO “BE”:
We are still waiting for your response, if the State of Nebraska rings a bell ..
u wouldn’t want us to remind you … would you?
We are also waiting for a response …. about Mrs. Hirschorn’s frequent rendezvous with Mordy T …..
we were asking if anyone knows the name of the restaurant where they would meet!
March 7th, 2006 at 9:38 am
What’s the latest with Aron Tendler ?
March 7th, 2006 at 9:48 am
What no one realizes is that the entire Tendler debacle has been orchestrated by the Satmar community in retaliation for Rav Tendler Sr.’s position on Metzizah B’Peh. In response to his effort to ban Metzizah B’Peh, thereby going against the halacha, the Satmar community has orchestrated the demise of both of his sons, and have used the Awareness Center to accomplish their deeds.
In the course of one year they have brought terrible dishonor to the Tendler Family that can never be recaptured. And everyone without any evidence is quick to celebrate the demise of this illustrious family of g’dolei HaTorah. It is very sad indeed.
March 7th, 2006 at 10:23 am
Just release the TAPES!
March 7th, 2006 at 10:28 am
Hey Metzizah b’ Peh: I hope you are trying to be funny, WELL YOU ARE NOT FUNNY SO SHUT UP. Thank you.
March 7th, 2006 at 10:33 am
Somebody, come forward with evidence allready instead of just allegations and conclusory reports !!!
March 7th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Sorry, Metzizah B’Peh but all of this predates Rav Moshe Tendler’s public MBP controversy. I like the RCA and others involved HAVE DEFENDE Rav Moshe Tendler on this issue.
And again the evidence HAS been produced and evaluated by the dayanim in Monsey, investigators at Praesidium and shortly again in civil court.
March 7th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Sorry, Metzizah B’Peh but all of this predates Rav Moshe Tendler’s public MBP controversy. I like the RCA and others involved HAVE DEFENDED Rav Moshe Tendler on this issue.
And again the evidence HAS been produced and evaluated by the dayanim in Monsey, investigators at Praesidium and shortly again in civil court.
March 7th, 2006 at 11:33 am
I find it ironic that the issue of metziza b’peh and the rancid rabbi are being discussed in the same thread. lol….does anyone really believe that satmar is so slick that they could get 14 (???) bimbos to collaborate on this story? i dont. as for the “board” the only “board” im supporting is this message board. from just down the block ive always marveled at the common denominator amongst mordys chassidim….u all know what im refering to, the wacky, frumpy, pseudo-intellectual, needy BT who feels like he belongs because the holy rabbi with the penis of great yichus gives him/her the time of day. i hate to say it but these morons are getting their just desserts here. anyone who blindly follows anyone or anything other than g-d is acting against everything judaism stands for. i dont feel bad that the whole charade is unraveling before all of us. it was only a matter of time. masturbating mordy and his miserable wife do not inspire any sympathy in me at all. i know youre not supposed to rejoice in the downfall of your enemies but forgive me….Im so happy I might be treating you all to cholent at the getty station on thursday. see you there!
March 7th, 2006 at 1:03 pm
What is the story with the evidence, if the tapes or evidence was shown to all these Rabbi’s, why aren’t the Rabbonim of Monsey helping KNH get rid of him, why are they left alone to do the dirty work? It is on their heads that this terrible chillul Hashem is happening, NH is in the paper and on T.V., and even worse people are so turned off to Judiasm, they are hanging onto a thread. Will the evidence ever be shown, what are they waiting for, to show it during the court case? If Tendler was a real Rabbi he would step down or at least take a leave of absence for a while till after the court case. He is sinking and dragging his shul with him. He takes his own members that used to be his good chums to bais din, all so he can remain on his throne, disgusting. All the Rabbi’s in NH should command their kehillot to support KNH in getting rid of him, what are they waiting for? Enough is enough. P.S. Rav Elya won’t be eating the choulent at getty, I heard that a B.T. (gasp!) cooks it, it might turn Elya into a frummy!!! He would have to eat a lot of it though….
March 7th, 2006 at 1:31 pm
As a BT, I do not like cholent. It looks like vomit. I wish the Jews had Italian cuisine instead of peasant food.
March 7th, 2006 at 1:38 pm
I agree with you, Resident of NH, get the evidence out !!!!
Any news on aaron tendler ?
March 7th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
If you put your lasagna or stuffed shells in the crockpot over night, it wouldn’t look pretty either darling! My parents had brains and pancreas in the fridge, I know how you feel.
Hey, I just got a copy of The Jewish Voice and Opinion in the mail today, anyone else get it? Nothing about Tendler as far as I can see, she’s busy with the cartoon jihad. I had left a message by them last time i got this “publication” telling them to please not send it. Okay, I was running out of TP anyway….
March 7th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
resident….i think u misunderstood me. i never said BT’s are frummys. I said they were “krummies”. a real ben torah can always tell the difference between frum and krum. id be a lot more inclined to support the KNH board if 100% of them had voted for the ouster of the randy rabbi. the mere fact there are is even a question as to whether or not to keep him befuddles me. i think everyone that davens there as long as mordy acts as rabbi is guilty of what in legal terms is known as “acting in concert”. how about NO ONE daven there as long as the “penis of great yichus” is in charge. you cant be much a rabbi without a congregation. YECHI ADONEINU MOREINU MASTURBATING MORDY MELECH NEW HEMPSTEAD L’OLAM V’AED!
March 7th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Omein v’Omein Selah!
March 7th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Okay Elya, but you shouldn’t think that all BT’s are weird and doing koolaid. Don’t worry, the BT of KNH are getting a real education in krumkiet, they could write an article about it in the Jewish Voice and Opinion! I have an idea, let’s ask the guys who are building the mikvah to have a little accident and ram their trucks into KNH (when noone is there of course) so we could have a little peace in the neighborhood!!!! I could vomit everytime I pass that shul and his highness’ home!
March 7th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
resident…..u could vomit? coming to and from work i pass the bais hamikdosh AND the kodesh kidoshim, lihavdil. i keep checking to see if im gonna see cop cars in front of there. i know this is sick but i am fully expecting a tragic ending here, ie. suicide, murder. im not wishing it OR condoning it, im just thinking that someone is going to snap. all the more reason why something must be done. for the record, as much as i joke around i dont hate BT’s i just feel that they are easily manipulated by scoundrels like the “anal ainekal” and that makes me disgusted. its like these shmucks are blind……WAKE THE HELL UP! YOUR HOLY RABBI IS A FUCKING PERVERT WHO CANT KEEP HIS PRICK IN HIS PANTS! ughhh!!! its so frustrating. Lord help me….I have to get back to work…gotta pay that tuition bill!
March 7th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
To R Elye, Holy Shrink NH Insider et al
Your disgusting raunchy dialogue brings you down to the same level of Mt. The fact you both discourse in Yiddish actually leads me to assume that you both attend a ” heilige” shul like KY. All I can say is that all the years you have spent in Yeshivas were a simple waste of time. I happen to know many people who became frum in their later years and you do no not come close in frumkeit to them. Derech Erezt kadma Letorah. Your Torah knowledge is is the proverbial Nezem Zahov B’Aph Chazir.
Sewrious issues are being discussed here and your Latzonus is not appreciated in this forum
March 7th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
It is likely that someone will lose it in shul and slug him. The situation is very bad. It is true, BT’s are unfortunately very suseptable to being used by meglomaniac Rabbonim, but they are waking up and smelling the “coffee” (smells alot worse over there.) KNH is like a bomb that is gonna blow very soon. and all the rabbi’s are sitting around twiddling their thumbs! Just don’t come crying to me for money for your mikvah when you are doing diddely squat about the situation here! I hold all of them responsible for closing their eyes, ears, and mouths!!!
March 7th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Just release the evidence!
March 7th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
The “disgusting and raunchy dialogue” is the result of being in our holy NH atmosphere! people are disgusted, angry, upset, and not feeling very inspired and religious right now. Once we get Tendler out they will slowly recuperate and do Teshuva!!! Maybe a miracle will happen this purim!
March 7th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Resident of NH
The raunchy dialogue was being carried on among three people ( or at least three different names) who know Yiddish and and and probably attended Yeshivas in their youth. There is absolutely no excuse for this type of behaviour. Trust me when I tell you that when you pass them by on Shabbos and you are not part of their black hsat gang they look at you as if you do not exist.
Another symptom of the elitist Yeshivish mentality which is the topic of a totally different nature and not relevant to this blog.
March 7th, 2006 at 3:03 pm
We are going off the topic again!
Somebody, just release some evidence!
March 7th, 2006 at 3:03 pm
Take some responsibility for the things that you write. Many people all over the world are reading this blog, and the profanity and general gasut ruach are bad for the “cause.” Just because MT is acting in a certain way does not mean I am going to choose to do the same, or act or speak like an animal. Please take it some place else. It’s disgusting. The same goes for the nasty comments about women, BTs etc.
Let’s stay on track. Getting the news out there and getting MT out of KNH.
The Lerman comments regarding the woman who stayed at their house in Israel, were completely slanted and distorted. She never tried to get MT to marry her, never said anything of the sort, didn’t buy earrings for him, or any other of those claims by “chana.” I for the life of me can’t understand how you as a community can turn on your rabbi, and not lend at least a modicum of support to the people who suffered the most by his hands. Let’s raise the level a bit shall we? And if we can’t, I too will be signing off this blog permanently.
March 7th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
ploni….u are the typical over weight, tiny glasses wearing, do-gooding, ass kissing, putz that i hate. the laytzonis lends levity to an issue that has continually frustrated us. who are you to judge mine or anyone elses frumkeit? you self righteous putz. happens to be i could probably learn your mediocre tuchus under the table. it doesnt take away from my concept of right and wrong and my acceptance of reality. im sure you and your shvitzer “wannabe” friends cluck your tounges in disapproval of those who oppose the rancid rabbi. you probably mumble some nonsense about koved hatorah and then move on to more stories about what you can shneur from your shver. its people like you who enable the meglomaniacs resident discussed in his post. ill borrow from howard stern on this one, if you dont like the content change the channel! simply put dont read this stuff if you are so worried about derech eretz. but if you are going to read this id suggest you follow this old addage….Siyug L’Chochmah Shtika! In english thats “youre a moron so shut the hell up!”
March 7th, 2006 at 3:16 pm
oh wait….so everyone who knows yiddish is a black hat wearing yeshiva bochur? isnt that statement a little racist? guess what? i dont wear a black hat, i have 4 tv’s, i mixed swim, i love goyisha music AND i despise yeshivisha people. doesnt my s/n exude a lack of derech eretz for the yeshivisha velt? yes i went to yeshiva all my life and YES i agree it was a waste of time. but i did take something out if it….and thats that we are truly an “Am Rake” (empty nation). commericial frumkeit has bred a gashmius only aura. totally “kiNeged” what REAL das torah had in mind for us. since you are apparently some sort of mutant BT type ill bring you back to the old skool…..”judge lest not ye be judged”
March 7th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
Hey, I went to yeshiva too, and I learned Torah. Here’s what I learned, in a nutshell: Every healthy adult male is obligated to sponge off his father in law for life. Only rabbi’s kids are allowed to have jobs, preferably as paid rabbis in shuls or yeshivas, where they collect money for the purpose of amassing millions of dollars of real estate to be held in corporations they control, all for the glory of Torah.
March 7th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
I don’t care who you are, Modern, Chassidic, Litvish, Yeshivish, or just plain JEWISH!!! Let’s all show some good old fashioned Achdut and get Rabid Menuval Tendler out of NH. If we and all the different Rabbi’s acted together we wouldn’t be in this mess!!! The RCA threw him out and YU threw him out, but we like a bunch of ninnies let him stay and rule supreme!!! For your info, Rav Elya, there are plenty of yeshivish people that are really great people, and there are plenty of modern people that I really respect as well. I don’t like this label thing, i look at the person’s inside, not what is on the outside. Looking at Tendler with his Rabbinic garb you would think he is the moshiach,!!! don’t judge people by the hat or kippah they wear, how many televisions they own, or how big their choulent stomach is. I think you should take your own advise Rav Elya and stop judgeing others.. you just ooze with hate, but let’s all get together and fight Tendler together! He is the enemy, not yeshivish people and not the black hat!!! Now let’s go get some choulent and beer and watch some T.V……
March 7th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
BT….u and I agree. WOW!!! i used to work on wall street for a major firm. i was in charge of high net worth accounts. i was bored one day and just randomly punched in names into the account database. i pulled up the “rosh hayeshiva” of a major boys institution in far rockaway with accounts totalling over $1,000,000 dollars. His money market account from which he drew checks was liquid for $250,000. For the “dan l’kaf zechusers” out there…NO this was NOT the yeshivas money! I had access to his cancelled checks and there was NOT ONE check written that could be construed as yeshiva expense. suffice it to say, I was shocked and if I hadnt seen it myself I wouldnt have believed it. so BT, you seem to have an accurate understanding of how the “krum” world works. Kudos!
March 7th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
So there apparently are no modern people in the krum world? Are they not allowed in? Grow up a little, will you Elya?
March 7th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
Back to the topic,
Can someone release the tapes ?
March 7th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
i never said modern orthodoxy isnt krum. i just cant site any specific examples from personal experience. trust me i know all too well that modern orthodoxy is rife with the “zelba drek” i grew up with in the yeshivisha velt. whether or not someone wears a kipah sruga or visah zucken it matters not. people are people. now back to the matter at hand…..when do we get to hear real evidence on those tapes? hearing mordy tell some chick that the line wasnt secure is hardly compelling evidence. btw….what was the story with those stories i heard about DNA. i never got the complete story on that. do tell
March 7th, 2006 at 4:38 pm
To Elya Shvei
I would much prefer that you quote more credible sources than Howard Stern. I am not for moment put off by your prost coarse approach. Like I mentioned in my previous post, your ability to learn does not impress me one iota. Certainly didn’t help your ability to communicate in a dignified fashion.
BTW I am not judging your frumkeit. All I ask is you do not denigrate the frumkeit of courageous peolpe who became frum.
I also do not believe that you control access on this site.
Your bizarre rantings are truly amazing.
March 7th, 2006 at 5:02 pm
FOUND IT! Look on page 22 of the Jewish Voice and opinion, “RCA admits there is no DNA”, and again a repeat of the Feinsteins speak out on page 28, who the hell is putting this in my mail box!!! The garbage people are going to be picking up alot of Jewish voice and opinion papers in front of KNH tomorrow!!!
March 7th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
ploni…im not even going to address you, its pointless. indulge me for a just a sec though, who mentioned me controlling access to anything other than my living room? i dont. never have. never will. resident…..what is the Jewish Voice and Opinion exactly……who writes it and who distributes it? btw the lack of dna is surprising you would like to think that at least one of these grubyan wouldve had the brains to gather some evidence. didnt they learn anything from lewinsky and her blue dress?
March 7th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
FYI: There is a use for the Jewish Press and also Susan’s Voice and Opinion.
Please remember to recycle both papers can be used to clean up after your puppy and/or to roll up your used feminine hygiene products.
March 7th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
To Critical: You take her word above mine. Do you know both of us? I wrote a witness report. What is the status of your claims, written on a forum that people all over the world are reading?
She came to make out with the rabbi. If you read my post well, you will understand where my certainty comes from. I am not the only one with this information, obviously. The court case is set to backfire. The full truth is the only weapon.
I thank the people who wrote words of support, on this forum, and via mail.
With blessings, especially to my dear old friend Jeffrey Cohen.
March 7th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
The Jewish Voice and Opinion is a monthly publication that is based in Englewood, NJ. Tendler is using this paper for support in his defense. The article states that “Rabbi Kanievsky ruled that it is prohiited to remove him from his positon or say anything negative about a Rov who has been the subject of rumors accusing him of moral turpitude which he vehemently denies.This is expecially true, said Rabbi Kanievsky, if the Rov in question has offered to go to a beit din to prove his innocence.” If Rabbi Kanievsky knew his name was in this shmattah paper, along with the woman on page fifteen who is wearing a spaghetti string top who is calling the Negev her home, his blood would boil!!!
March 7th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
Elya
I agree with you on one point.
It is pointless to dialogue with you.
As far as control is concerned, I am just responding to your pathetic comment as to go somewhere else if I don’t like the hateful vitriol you spew in your comments towards whole segments of people.
BTW
I am not a great fan of the current yeshiva world either. To strongly disagree as I do with the way they conduct themselves is one thing. But the hatred and extreme comments you make on just about anything and anyone you comment on speaks volumes about you .
Please do not reply to me as I have no interest in communicating with you. You are a troubled soul and I wish you only the best.
March 7th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Isnt Rabbi Kanievsky the same Rav who poskined that if you dont have a hat you should not daven tefillah b’tzibor. Enough said.
Ploni….NEWSFLASH! i could care less about what anyone thinks of my comments or about me. there i replied to you! oh and u can take those good wishes and stick em where the sun dont shine. i have no patience for imbecils and i never will.
March 7th, 2006 at 5:59 pm
You all are making presumptions
Stating things as facts
Assuming motivations
Cutting people down
With no first hand relationship
Vicki Polin has no contact with victims of RMT
March 7th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
Insider
Your departure was hopefully only of a temporary nature which was brought about by the likes of Elya Shvei and his ilk of buffoons.
Hopefully, you will reconsider and return with your meaningful posts which brought credibility to this site before it was destroyed by these morons.
March 7th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
No, Rov Elya (shlita), he paskened that we are not allowed to daven with a person who hates other Jews! Ploni, don’t even answer him, you don’t have to get the last word in, now let’s go home and eat some choulent!!!
March 7th, 2006 at 6:20 pm
Resident of NH
I am not trying to get the last word in. I just want to see this site which has been informative for the most part not be compromised as evidenced by Insider’s intention to cease his participation here due to some immature fools who carry on a stupid raunchy dialogue who then claim its legitimacy by trying to bring some “levity” to the situation.
They are so full of themselves that it is not even funny.
I am a lurker here for the most part and only surface when I feel I have something of substance to contribute as opposed to these fools.
There. I got it off my chest. Hope this might influence other people to possibly ignore them.
BTW I only like chulent on Shabbos. You probably have a stronger constitution than I do.
March 7th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
Insider said he or she would post if something major came up.
March 7th, 2006 at 7:01 pm
Long time lurker first time poster. First of all, Reb Elya and company, you are a panic. Keep it up, although remember you chased Insider away and that’s a big loss to the cause. We may not be able to rid the world of Mordy without The Insider. And after this post Critical is gone too. Big deal.
Porn stars mostly come from abused homes! What a load! The porn industry today is a multi-BILLION dollar industry. Do you think that little tidbit comes into play? In 2006 that statement makes me wonder what cave you’ve been hiding in for the last thirty odd years. Its like saying “all coloreds like watermelon.� Being abused is no more an excuse to go into the porn industry as it is an excuse to run around all over Monsey saying how strong you are but not strong enough to come out of hiding, face your abuser, and really accomplish something.
A few pages back, that same poster stuck between Maple Avenue and “Pity Me Because I’m a Victim, I think her blog name is JewishSurvivorVictimsUniteNebachCasesPityMeBecauseMyPantsOpenByThemselves – posted something about old Mordy paying off the “Awareness Center� to remove his name. I figure someone finally has something good on him. You go follow the link it had nothing to do with Mordy. Dumb Bitch! Don’t waste my time with your false claims they just make you seem like a liar. And we all know every story has grown taller with age. The story five years ago that he rubbed up against you has become he did you on top of the bimah after shachris with his shel rosh on and didn’t even say thank you afterward, then made you walk back to Victoia Gardens alone.
This is the problem with all of you victims reading this blog. The grubba meeskite Vicki Polin is right – stay away. Because we don’t care about you. Talk about strange bedfellows, you made the mistake once already don’t make it again. We want ol Mordy out because he is a hypocrite liar phony psycho. But that doesn’t make us on your side. We couldn’t give a rats ass about any of you. We all know you weren’t run out of town. We all know you left because you were ashamed of what fools you made out of yourselves.
So stick to your survivor blogs, your Mark Dratch reach around sessions, and all the drugs you need to help you barely cope in todays mean nasty world. Boo hoo somewhere else.
Adina – stop reading this blog. We all know youre the nutbag that graces the top of this page with your crap. Here’s another little insight – if Mordy did ‘ya, then by definition you are certifiably insane. All 14 or 40 or 200 of you. Because that’s his M.O. and if you don’t fit the profile, you ain’t getting the Tendler Beef (Glatt Kosher). He chose all the nuts because that is his alibi. Look in the dictionary under Tendler Victim, the definition is any lunatic that had a pre-existing lunacy that killed their credibility, believed his come ons, and spread quicker than melted butter after buying his BS. He figured correctly that no one will believe these crazys anyway. And he was right until he started doing half the Shul. His mistake wasn’t technique it was volume.
Every time I saw Adina near that shul I cringed she was and still is the loosest cannon, you never knew when she was going to flip under that quiet fake exterior. If this is what it took to get rid of her, hey we all have our prices to pay. If she told me it was day outside I would first check my watch. And don’t for a minute think Levi never got Mordy’s sloppy seconds. There’s a three headed kid hidden in some basement that was the fruit of that union.
The other victim I had the pleasure of knowing really believed she was going to marry the guy. (See Moshe Lerman’s post Adina believed the same thing, the similarity is unreal.) She told people Mordy was going to leave Michelle for her! She really believed she was Mordechai’s Esther. Literally. Happy Purim. This woman once through a glass of wine in Michelle’s face on shabbos at KNH. A real lovers spat. She did other crazy shit like walked up to the amud during shachris. Fought with Michelle over whose coat went on top of Mordy’s in his office. This must go back who knows how many years but it’s true. The poor sap married to this one had the cops at his house all the time. We all know who this nut is and what happened in that case. A few years ago I saw this one walking on 306, she looked like she was selling. But I ain’t buyin.
And who here remembers how much money was raised when another Tendler “cause� birthed her group of kids? How much was collected, then she ends up abandoning them and running off with a kid! We are the true victims. All of us who got suckered in time and time again for that Discretionary Fund.
So don’t ask me to feel sorry for the victims. They only became victims after their fantasy fell apart and reality set in that all they were getting was laid. The RCA used em, Wosner used em, Satmar and Viznihtz are getting their licks in and one day after megadoses of therapy and drugs maybe they will realize that help only comes to those that help themselves.
And the Marinellis and Rephens of the world, the true source for all the News in New Hempstead. Do yourself a favor and run from these people like Asian Bird Flu. They drink a different Kool Aid, just not Mordy’s. But Kool Aid is Kool Aid. Leah is Mordy revised. She used Adina too the same way Mordy did (well not exactly the same way). That woman should change her name to Used. Used by Mordy, used by RCA, used by Leah. Used Mermelstein vs. Tendler.
Enough about that. On to Mordy, this is the tendler open thread right? The best thing I ever did was take my family out of that sick place. That brand of Judaism is so warped it makes Lubavitch smell good. That’s no easy task. I would sooner count a Palestinian in my minyan than a New Hempstead Jew.
This guy has such a God Complex its sick. We’ve known that for years. You can’t buy into it without losing every ounce of your self respect. Its no wonder he can’t keep der heilige shmeckel in his pants. But his taste in women should have turned him gay by now so I suggest all you guys in New Hempstead, don’t bend down for the siddurim.
I watched in amazement all those guys buying into his matzo crap. I’ll sonner eat Wonder Bread on Pesach over his hand baked BS. And all that garbage about his esrogim – please. How do people fall for this? Is so sad that his Israel plan didn’t work out because that was our best shot at getting rid o fthis pompous schmuck. Does Friedman carry the matzo in the briefcase on shabbos chol hamoed Pesach? I always wondered.
Bottom line, you are better off moving your family onto Three-Mile Island, into the reactor, then New Hempstead. The place has more nuts than Planters.
And as for this whole Mordy screwed me so now I’m not frum crap. Mordy puts his pants on one leg at a time like every other guy. HE’S the reason you go off the derech? Stop putting him on some perch and thinking he is the modern day Moses. You go off the derech, pal, its on your head, not his (big or small). If he told you to jump off the bridge do you just follow or do you think maybe there is a consequence somewhere in there I should worry about. It makes no difference what kind of Jew you are either. What we are supposed to do is not let the actions of an oversexed fake rabbi dictate our own path. There are fag chassids, cheating on their wives modernish, and black hat ganovim all over the place. Not to mention warped BTs who do all that and who are just as farkrumped as the FFBs. Who cares? Does that mean every black guy has a huge schlong and every Puerto Rican carries a knife? Or that every rabbi sleeps with married women? What makes anyone think this case is so special?
March 7th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
anoymous….i read and read your post. obviously there is a lot of opinion here but there is also fact. your post has the passion and emotion that i can really relate to and appreciate. thank you for telling it like it is and for making these other blow hards look foolish.
March 7th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
Tapes anyone?
March 7th, 2006 at 7:57 pm
Anonymous 7:01
Wha a superb posting! Thanks for teling it like it is….many many of us still at KNH feel the same way (and there are not many many of us left at KNH)
Part of what has kept people at KNH is the recognition that the accusers are as revolting as the rabbi, so why not throw all the trash out together and just start over….that’s not working very well (on either score) administratively right now, but that is the universal sentiment in shul today
March 7th, 2006 at 8:22 pm
I am amazed at the insights of chaimyankel. Read the Igros Moshe he is recommending and you will receive a lot of insights.
March 7th, 2006 at 8:25 pm
Well said Anonymous
March 7th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
New Hempstead News confirms the axing of Aron Tendler ...
March 7th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
Was there a part I don’t know about
Is the last posting over an HOUR agao ?
man this place is so lame.
Anyway good things come to those who wait so I will wait around some more
March 7th, 2006 at 9:01 pm
... Aron Tendler is in Israel, and was denied access to har habayit. See the Jerusalem Post. While in Israel, the shul has removed him as their Rabbi.
March 7th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
Oh no, Aron Tendler is probably coming to KNH for Shabbos to be the assistant Rabbi, he’ll be welcomed with open arms by the pro-tendler people, his brothers and tatty and mommy.
March 7th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
if we lived in Israel
we would be worried about the government giving land back to the Arabs and kassem rockets
Instead we have some pedephile Rabbi and his sick family to spend time with
Hashem should help us.
March 7th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
All this bitching and moaning yet no one has the balls to step up and make a splash.
March 7th, 2006 at 10:24 pm
WOW
I JUST WENT TO ARON TENDLER’S SHUL WEBSITE
THEY TOOK RABBI ARON TENDLER OFF THE WEBSITE
GO TO VALLEYSHUL DOT COM
CLICK ON LEADERSHIP
March 7th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
ELYA
GUYS HEARD THE TAPES
March 7th, 2006 at 10:27 pm
IT’S SOON GOING TO BE TIME TO HAVE mORDECHAI OVER FOR LUNCH
March 7th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Three Board members of KNH, one Trustee, and one member heard a tape last night. In The tape they clearly hear Mordy soliciting a married woman. Enough said ….
Do what Cong SZ in LA did …. Kick the pervert out ASAP!
March 7th, 2006 at 10:40 pm
Presidents message on valley shul website stll mentions their “moro deasrah” towards end of message
March 7th, 2006 at 10:45 pm
Holy Shrink are you saying 3 members heard Mordy soliciting a married woman?
that should be repeated don’t you think
Holy Shrink are you saying 3 members heard Mordy soliciting a married woman?
What does Eileen Grossman say?
You guys better get him the fuck out, don’t you think?
March 7th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Elya
wadaya think now?
March 7th, 2006 at 10:54 pm
Anonymous @ 7:01 — I hope you write for a living. If you don’t mind, I’m going to quote you and pretend I thought of it. You got a mind on you, baby…..
March 7th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Can someone post the letter from the board of aran tendler’s shul?
Can someone post a transcript of the tapes
March 7th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
Batya I want to make kove to you right now
Oh adina your breasts are so perky
get him the fuck out !
March 7th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
Im betting Eileen is still drinking her Kool Aide with a little help from Harry. I am curious as to how you define “soliciting” and I would really love to see some sort of transcript of the conversation. If all this is true then when is he going to officially be barred from the shul? Also wouldnt it be in the best interest of KNH to publicly release some specific info therefore dispelling any doubt that they would be doing the right thing by kicking “baby jesus” to the curb. Come on people…..why dont we just end this once and for all? Make the tapes public and lets move on. Show some gumption and stop pussying around the issue.
March 7th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
The Holy Shrink is absolutely correct …
The tape was indeed heard by three members of the Board …
BE and MF were invited to hear the tapes and they refused!
They want to continue to drink the kool-aid …
March 7th, 2006 at 11:38 pm
Elya whatup huny. I was busy taking care of Klal Yisroel while youre still playing around with these idiots. I think that i once came across a normal BT. one. Listen you people there is not one once of doubt that the Second Melech Hamashiech the anal ainacal the grabing grandson fucked around. Everyone knows this for sure. Yet the same stupid fucks whose wives got fucked dont have the fucking balls to get the motherfucker the fuck out. You fucking BTs are so fucked up you guys shouldve stayed tinuk shanishbar.
Hows that for some yiddish?
March 7th, 2006 at 11:42 pm
Sorry about that guys. Just a little frustrated. Truth is you BTs are more the victims of this Mishugana Mordy than the women. I really love ya all. Come to my house and well sing Reb Shlomo songs over some single malt.
March 8th, 2006 at 12:11 am
Reb Shmuel…I mamish chaped hispieless from your post. But really…whats the shailah here? i think its fairly obvious that “baby jesus” is a serial molester and even the catholic church would at least move him to some parish in bumfuck iowa just to keep him out of the public eye. but nooooooooo not here in NH, we have to keep him in power, wearing him like some badge of our tolerance and our frumkeit. wake up, fruma yiddin! abuse of any sort SHOULD NEVER be tolerated! so why are people hesitating to toss the “penis of great yechus” out on his philandering ass? And why doesnt one of the husbands of these women step up and handle his business like a real man? like i said in my first post….if thats my wife, there would be no discussion….id have dealt with this mano a mano. its time to buck up and act like real men. your soft as butter persona is erily simular to the attitude that the jews had in WW2 and we all know how great that turned out. nothing wrong in defending your turf gentelmen, in fact i think its something to be proud of. ill be handing out testasterone with the cholent on thurs night at the getty station. see you there
March 8th, 2006 at 12:46 am
Reb Shmiel and Reb Elya, please send me an application to your illustrious yeshiva. Please also include a tuition scholarship form so I can avoid paying tuition while running to the bahaymas for Pesach (yes, I do eat gebrochts). I would like to take How to avoid the anal aynikl for first seder, and Hilchos how to get ugly babes to believe I’m moshiach for night seder. I can be reached by snail mail at Kehilat No Humping care of Rabbi More Bendher. And her. And her and her too. Please also let me know if vassa zockin is permitted with vulline tzitzis and a tchup. Shkoyach
March 8th, 2006 at 5:37 am
How could the board and trustees hear the tape but I am not permitted as a paying member? only my checkbook is kosher for these idiots? they certainly have an obligation to make them available to me, or provide me a detailed report that redacts the identity of the women, and let me make my own decision regarding continued membership and/or the petition to remove the Rabbi….you remember the petition to remove the Rabbi, don;t you? It’s in the bylaws….the original was “confiscated for causing disruption in the harmony of the community” (!!!!!!!!!) and SP has yet to show the kahunas to send around a second copy….but he will sit in shul and kowtow to the Penis With Yichus….why not let us make our own decisions and either hear the tapes or be provided with a certified neutral redaction as paying membership
March 8th, 2006 at 6:57 am
The smartest thing is to force the Bais Din or secular issue. It’s fine and good to run around with a DNA report or tapes and selectively show it but anybody with half a mind as a defense attorney would want to challenge the authenticity of these pieces of evidence. Did DR get a copy of the original report from the lab or did he blindly accept it from his source (Kool Aid exists on both sides)? Ever hear of George Bush, his National Guard records and Dan Rather? All pieces of evidence have to be beyond all doubt. Same thing with tapes - they have to be authenticated. While I doubt it, imagine if these damning pieces of evidence end up being inauthentic! What will we have done!? Get it into court already (secular or Bais Din) and force the issue.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:17 am
The Tendler koolaid druggies will just say that the tapes are false, made by Tendler’s enemies. I would like these tapes to be played by all the Rabbi’s here in NH, and then knh could get the support for an anti-tendler protest! If my Rov tells me to go i will be there with my picket sign (throw the bum out!!!) Rav Elya please have the choulent and testosterone delivered to the protest to keep us warm it gets windy in front of knh. thanks.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:18 am
KeNeineHora
You are the only one in KNH not to have heard the tape.
A full shul vote was taken. and nobody wanted you to hear them
Everyone else did hear them including Eileen Grossman Michelle Tendler
and all of the childre in the shul.
But the shul membership felt that you might get too excited and start masturbating on the spot, as a result you will be the only person in Rockland county not to hear the tapes. Sorry….
March 8th, 2006 at 7:50 am
HEY, I have a great idea for a sisterhood fundraiser, we could show tapes and movies of Rabbi Tendler at knh for ten dollars a head, let me call Shelly Karben right now, we’ll make millions! Men and women separate seating of course.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:06 am
“Fundraiser of victim’s tapes and movies�? This is not entertainment, a joke. This is peoples’ lives. Their private lives which you damage even more then their abuse. As you wanted the truth and they didn’t want to be victimized anymore or allow further victimization and Justice was needed, you continue to damage and make this entertainment. The Evidence which may be obtained under difficult circumstance in a situation that is not protocol is not for all to see especially for your entertainment. Only for authority. Victims put themselves through trauma to the RCA, their investigators, and some to Rabbanium. You have your facts, authority set. This is not a show but a breakdown and a failure in our Jewish community.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:15 am
Those remaining at KNH have refused to show any compassions towards Tendler’s survivors. No apology, no compassion. Further, day in and out, remaining KNH members further smear the survivors in this thread.
May their institution go out of business, end up going to pay the judgments of survivors and may they never be welcomed on ANY board or in any position of authority EVER AGAIN.
Do not trust them, do not help them. Not one dollar.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:32 am
The movie fundraiser is a great idea but i would be very concenrned about where the butter on the popcorn comes from.
Reb Elya, vyter these nudniks seem perturbed by the leitzonis and gashmiusdike attitude here. Its confusing because if tendler made them victims, and we get rid of tendler for making them victims, who will the new victims go to to become victims? Der heilige shtupshammus may have been their only hope.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:35 am
Tendler hit on my wife a while back. Called her on the phone. Asked her to help him with a certain mitzvah. She said, OK I will meet you there. He said, No, I will pick you up. He came to the house and picked her up in his car. Drove her around. Told her she was his favorite person. Showered her with more compliments. Then he inquired about her shalom bayis situation. She had never once ever approached him with any kind of shalom bayis issue. He didn’t touch her, but he made her feel weird. She came home and told me how strange he had behaved towards her. Now, with all this stuff coming to light, it is obvious what he had in mind. Only one thing I can’t understand…my wife is good looking, and he still went for her!
March 8th, 2006 at 8:56 am
So even if the tapes were heard by 3 Board members and 2 trustees. Trust me, it wouldn’t have taken hearing those tapes to convince anyone what they believed beforehand. Just solidifies the case against him and would give more chizuk to those that may have heard them. But the fact remains that numerous Rabbonim who are in possession of tapes, DNA, and those Rabbonim who sat and listened to the tapes, still refuse to release them to the general public and wil not sign on to anything that will really serve to cause him to leave Monsey and MORE IMPORTANTLY the pulpit. These same Rabbonim will also tell you that RMT will never go to Bais Din, which we have all seen for ourselves. Proof of fact is RMT himself who keeps telling eveyone that he is pushing for a Din Torah, but for some strange reason months go by, and they’re not even close. He’s never going to a Din Torah, not with the RCA, local Rabbonim, or with the Officers of KNH. It would be his ultimate demise and everyone including his father knows it. So it seems we’re in a catch 22. RMT doesn’t go to Bais Din, he fights the Officers of KNH over their actions, members are about to sue each other. Hazmonas, derivitive actions, defamation actions, suspensions, etc. and the only ones who benefit are the lawyers defending everyone. Great scenario for KNH. But what people don’t realize is that this is a blemish for all of New Hempstead, Monsey, and its effects have been proven to be far more reching than that.
So the smart thing to do would be for the Rabbonim to hold a public meeting in Monsey, play the tape that allegedly was heard, give out transcripts with the Gevios Aides (or whatever its called), and invite the general public. THE TAPES, AT A MINIMUM, WILL CONFIRM HE IS UNFIT TO BE A RABBI. HE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LEAVE.
Get the woman on the tape to allow it to be played or have a Bais Din force to person in possession of the tape to release it to the general public. The tape probably doesn’t harm the woman being propositioned, it would show her to be upstanding and moral. She is a victim, remember that. She was propositioned by RMT, smack in the middle of her times of depression and confusion of events in her life. The typical modus operendi of RMT with each and every victim.
PUBLISH THE TAPE. DON’T PUT THE ONUS ON THE OFFICERS OF KNH TO DO YOUR WORK AND WHAT YOU, THE RABBONIM OF MONSEY ARE RESPONSIBILE FOR.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:23 am
I agree with you , Anonymous,
Just play the tapes already and this could be wrapped up. Whether Tendler is guilty or not, nothing is gained by stringing this out like this,
March 8th, 2006 at 9:26 am
Here is the link to the article about Aron Tendler fired now and not being able to wait for his planned date of resigning:
It is from the Jewish Journal in L.A.
...
March 8th, 2006 at 11:15 am
Putting it all in perspective, Praise The Lord We Aint Irish — Two Tendlers was more than enough for American Jewry….102 more priests suspected, and it is a matter of fact headline given the numbers already exposed
102 Irish Priests Suspected of Abuse
By SHAWN POGATCHNIK, Associated Press Writer 42 minutes ago
The Roman Catholic archdiocese of Dublin said Wednesday that 102 of its priests are suspected of sexually or physically abusing at least 350 children since 1940 — the biggest such admission to date in Ireland.
The office of Archbishop Diarmuid Martin said it was publishing its findings ahead of this month’s expected formation of a government-appointed commission to investigate the history and handling of such abuse in Ireland.
This predominantly Catholic nation has been rocked by waves of church sex-abuse scandals since 1994.
The archdiocese said it conducted a two-year review of the personnel files of more than 2,800 priests who have worked in the Dublin archdiocese, either as parish priests or in religious orders, during the past 66 years.
It found that eight priests in Dublin were convicted of abuse, while 32 priests have been sued for damages by 105 victims at a cost to the archdiocese of $7 million. That figure includes about $2 million in legal bills for both sides.
But the report said costs were expected to increase significantly because 40 cases remained unsettled, while church authorities had positively identified at least 350 abuse victims and “a possible further 40 persons who may have been abused but who it is not yet possible to identify or trace.�
Martin, a veteran Vatican diplomat appointed here in 2003, said he believed the archdiocese would have to sell off some of its properties to cover the mounting compensation bill. He called that a necessary sacrifice to right past wrongs, as much as was possible.
“It’s very frightening for me to see that in some of these cases, so many children were abused. It’s very hard to weigh that up against anything,� Martin said.
“On the other hand, I know that the vast majority of priests don’t abuse, that they do good work, that they’re extremely upset and offended by what’s happened.�
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March 8th, 2006 at 11:26 am
You wanted a transcript of the tapes, here it is! (MT=The Penis of Yichus…BTB= Baal Teshuvah Bimbo)
MT: Hello?
BTB: Your lordship….Thank you so much for allowing me to pleasure the royal penis
MT: The pleasure was all mine….You fulfilled your religious requirement to provide pleasure to the messiah. You are more religious now.
BTB: Oh thank you, sire. How can I go to the next level?
MT: I might allow you to mount the penis of great yechus. Hey!!! Is this line secure????!!!!
DIAL TONE……
there you have it. i think the evidence is pretty conclusive here. now lets fry the anal ainikel!
March 8th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
ELYA,
That’s not even funny! Why don’t you post something intelligent for once!
March 8th, 2006 at 12:13 pm
why dont u DO something intelligent for once. instead of whining like a little bitch, DO SOMETHING. youre all a bunch of talkers. talk is cheap. WHENS THE PROTEST, TOUGH GUYS? or are you scared….if youre scared say youre scared…..IM NOT SCARED……SO BRRRRRRRRRRRING IT
March 8th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Elya, er iz noch a mishiga. Its histerical. My problem is that this whole sick business has farshtered our regular night seder, and we were about to chazer over hilchos hiding the afikomen, we know where Merdche hides it but is that lchol hadayos lchatchila the right way since he likes to achilas the kelevs?
March 8th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
Toi alarunny
Do not bother communicating with Elya. He is an extremely immature self righteous individual who needs a good counsellor to help him sort out his anger problems. He is quite selective in the application of halacha especially as it applies to himself. Shades of MT if you really think about it.
He is unforttunately destrying the credibilty of this site.
March 8th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
By the way this latest Anonymous post has an incredible mind. What a great idea to play the tapes. I don’t think its ever been mentioned. I thought the whole point was to say there were tapes, but never really show them, so everyone could be machshiv the 42 hoizebitches who have the tapes but we could never really end this mishigas.
March 8th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
Mich….you seem to get it. This is all a bunch of hot air until someone really steps up with some hard evidence (excuse the play on words). ploni, when u look in the mirror what do u see? What you should be seeing is a pompous judgemental asshole who takes himself and this site WAY tooooo seriously. For the record, I dont think any anonymous comment really lends itself to credibility so I dont really think Ive dont much to destroy this alleged credibility that you refer to. If you really have an issue with me I invite you to email me directly at ... I dont really need to remain anonymous here, cause I could give a crap about what kikes like you think about me.
March 8th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Reb Elye
Ver nish azoiy oifgereket, der “ploni” is mistaam a groiser naar….
Ich zey az “Mich” farshteit an inyan!
Ich zey de ganzer zach azoi ….
Mordcha hut pushit oifgeshelt a ganzer rabbunis … nur ze shtupin veiber..
es iz em gurnisht vichtig … tze de vaiber zenen shain udder mees.
Abee gestuped …
Ich mein oz “Ploni”’s veib hut toem gevehn taam deisirah mit dem anal einikel, vegen dem iz er ozoi sensitive!
March 8th, 2006 at 1:14 pm
The point about the last 200 or so posts destroying the credibility of this site is right on the mark. If there weren’t lives at stake, perhaps there might be some humor here. In the meantime, you’re just spewing useless garbage. I’m sure I am not the only one who sees the names of the foul posters, and simply skips those posts.
March 8th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
Listen Elya, if you have a shaila about my hisorirus let me know I’ll try to be michazek you because lmayseh this is takeh not right to make leytzonis, as I said before with no one to victimize the victims how can there be more victims? So we victimize the victims too by victimizizing the abuser who victimized them to begin with. I thought there was chasidish, litvish, modernish, but now I see it’s more complicated. By the way, where is Insider?
March 8th, 2006 at 1:21 pm
Reb Elya
Ich halt oz es is gurnish vichtig ze zain de evidence udeer zu heren de tapes ….
Az men ret oif a rAv oz er hut gestupped … dus is by mir genig !
vegen dem alein darf men em orois varfen oifen zein kup!
March 8th, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Member, ich fahrshtei. ehr reht ve ah shoita,mamish. de gansa blog iz in gantsen a laytzonisdika zach. de iker zach iz dus….harav horny iz de prusta bull von du, nisht mir…..ich freig de zelba shailah reb isser zalmen meltzer hut gefrekted reb aharon, Z’TL…..”vus vet zein mit de anderer?”
March 8th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Reb Elya, when I read your “tape” I laughed so hard, the tears were coming down my face!!! LOL!!! I am sure that once we bring down Tendler the victims will know that it was worth all the pain and humiliation they suffered. Sorry if I offended any of you. Somehow, I think writing jokes is our way of dealing with a really sick situation, and if it helps people feel less frustrated,I see no harm. So, when is the protest? Okay, gotta go make up some picket signs…(I wish I knew yiddish to understand the yiddish here, oh well.)
March 8th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
I think that SIW needs to somehow keep the nonsense posts off of this thread. If he cannot do that, I suggest that someone start a separate blog with some minimal level of moderation. It is a waste of time for most people to read this thread anymore, since 80% of the recent posts are barely relevant to the important issues related to the Tendler (x2) matter.
March 8th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
To Insider
Glad to see that you have checked in and made your comment. These immature repugnant disgusting idiots are ruining this forum. Their fake frumkeit is totally nauseating.They have the audacity to adopt names of great rabbonim and then continue to heap satire on this whole situation.
I simply ignore these idiots and just wish that everyone else does as well. They are probably a bunch of bums who have found a place to spread their filth.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
Hey, loosen up you guys, it’s adar, it’s muttar! What you need is a trip to the Grapevine….Don’t you understand that they are writing this because they are upset and disgusted? Nothing is going on anyway to report about. How can you call these people fake in their frumkeit, who are you, G-d? Or maybe Tendler? I don’t see the harm they are doing, they are participating in a blog and it’s not a crime to write what they feel. I’d rather read this than the Jewish Press and the Jewish Voice and Opinion any day. If this can be a blog that gives chizuk to those of us who are upset over the situation, then it is a good thing, although you would like the forum to be different. why won’t you just start your own?
March 8th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
I definetly disagree with everybody and think that I am right and all of you are wrong.
Now that we have that out of the way
nachu, oops I mean Elya you are a riot.
finaly we have a bit of humor on this site.
DOES ANYONE KNOW ERIC LAFALOTS E-MAIL
PLEASE POST IT
IF HE CAN PULL HIS HEAD OUT OF MT’s BUTT LONG ENOUGH TO READ AN EMAIL I HAVE A COUPLE OF CHOICE WORDS I’D LIKE TO TELL HIM
March 8th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
I think I’ll start my own blog, Survivors of Tendler Abuse. We can all swap stories, write jokes in yiddish, cry and laugh, and celibrate when this sick individual is shipped off to kalamazoo!!! and I can fax choulent to everyone. May we all witness a miracle this purim!
What do you have against Eric anyway? If you can’t speak to him face to face, then don’t send an e-mail either.
March 8th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
For eric’s email contact me as knhmember at netscape dot net
March 8th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Why won’t you e-mail tendler some fan mail instead, i’m sure he could use it, he doesn’t have many fans left. Can’t wait for this years Shalach Manot from KNH, will it contain their usual drivel on how our shul is so holy, so special, so wam, so unique? Maybe once they get rid of the cult leader they can establish a normal shul which doesn’t profess that they are the best shul in the world, right under the kisaih hakavod. This must be a very humbling experience for them.
March 8th, 2006 at 5:59 pm
I continue to be troubled by the notion of women who have continued consensual relationships to be considered “victims” or “survivors” in that it infantalizes women and makes them incapable of being independent agents, responsible for their own actions.
Are the Tendler brothers m’navlim or worse? Probably. But it takes two to tango and the same number for blow jobs. Imagine that, a person in a position of moral authority uses their charisma and that authority to pursue selfish goals. I’m shocked that such a thing happens. Shocked, I tell you.
And all the folks saying that the “victims” husbands want to wreak violence upon Mort and Aron, just remember, as long as the focus is on the Tendlers’ misdeeds, their “victims” don’t have to account for their own behavior.
As for the emotional neutron bomb of calling AT a “child molester” because he had the hots for a 16 year old, well I guess that makes millions of teenage boys and former teenage boys to be child molesters. A sixteen year old female may be legally a child in some jurisdictions (though the age of consent in some states is as low as 14), but biologically once a female has gone through puberty it is 100% normal for any adult male to find her sexually attractive. It might be immoral by our current social standards, but it’s not pedophilia or child molestation. Read The Memoirs of Glucke of Hamlin, the diary of a Jewish woman in the mid 1600s in central Europe. I believe all of her daughters were married at 14 and 15.
There are many truths involved here. One is that some clergymen hit on their female congregants. Many, perhaps most, pulpit clergy are charismatic folks who like people, so the temptation is there. However, if you ask honest and morally decent clergymen who don’t fool around the truth, they will tell you that they have also been hit on by some of their female parishoners. It’s considered a vocational hazard. The difference is that the clergyman cannot use the “he tricked me and abused his authority” defense with his spouse and employers.
So fine, fire Morty and Aron, but don’t think this is just about perverted rabbis.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
The silence of the lambs of the Orthodox Jewish community to the scandals exploding all about KNH is scandalous, itself. While we have heard from the RCA and certain rabbis in the area, this has failed to crack the almost deafening silence of the black hat community towards the victimization of vulnerable members living within it. Indeed, we have experienced just the opposite–a rabbinic expression of isolationism that is hostile to anything that might shed some light on a particularly dirty subject and might protect innocents from the possibility of future harm. The RCA issued a report about Rabbi Tendler, concluded that he engaged in conduct unbecoming an orthodox rabbi and expelled him from its ranks. But, it refuses to release the results of its investigation and issue its report, even a version redacted of victims’ names. Is this appropriate? It may satisfy the self imposed limited purview of the RCA, but what about its responsibility to the Jewish community at large? A 1000 member organization of the most upstanding rabbis purposefully sticking its head in the sand because,… because of what? And what about the other rabbis in the community who may have previously known something of the type of conduct which has violently surfaced almost all at once to paralyze a synagogue and its membership? Where have they been? And more importantly, where are they now? This whole episode is disturbing. Not because we expect the rabbinate to be so pure, but because they are so listless in the pursuit of truth and in efforts to ensure the well being of others. Bloggers and others are criticizing “The New Hempstead Ten” for not demonstrating, according to them, a sufficient commitment to oust Rabbi Tendler from his position. But, is this fair when the ones who know so well the Jewish system of jurisprudence purposefully remain so quiet and insulate themselves so determinedly? Whether KNH survives or not is really not the issue. There are more than enough shuls in Monsey and more than enough rabbis. But what this episode says about the orthodox rabbinate in general is most disconcerting. For its silence and inaction condemns them. Indeed, they are condemned even by their teachings. Would Moses or Pinchas, would King David, and the other prophets know these people; would they want to know them? Hardly. But, they would want to know “the New Hempstead Ten,” those brave and lonely few who decided to suspend a powerful Rabbi from an even more powerful family for alleged conduct unbecoming an orthodox Rabbi. And doing this not only to save the synagogue, but to safeguard the well being of others. In 1964, 38 people watched in silence as a young woman was attacked and stabbed three separate times by the same man. This poor woman, Kitty Genovese, died in a pool of blood. This situation has no bearing on what is going on today at KNH with the exception of one word: “Disinterest”. Disinterest to the plea of someone in need. Are any of us so wise that we can distinguish when we would go to the aid of someone being physically attacked or someone having his/her will compromised in another way? I don’t know. But, why even ask when all one has to do is act. To call, to write, to intervene, to take a stand for something meaningful, like respect for others. Irony of ironies, nine men and one woman, not a rabbi amongst them, have taken such a stand. They have acted. And win, lose or draw, they are the true Jews, the moral warriors upon which this glorious faith has been built.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Insider Tendler is still your rabbi! Nothing written on this thread has gotten him out! As such, everything on this blog up to the Elya and co. stuff has been irrelevant. You guys have failed misrably. Now someone must take responsibility. Hence the Eyla rationale. You guys brought him here you guys built him up, you guys bowed to him, you guys got banged by him. You guys created this monster. And after a month of blogging on your terms the guy banged you royally once again. I think what Elya and co. say is the way we all (except KNH) feel.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Allow me to reply seriously for a moment to several of the recent posts. Unlike a lot of you I am indeed a resident of New Hempstead. No I am not a KNH member but still I reside here and have for quite a while. I am raising my family here, I run my business here and this whole sordid affair is in my face on an almost daily basis. I kept my mouth shut for the better part of one year on this because I wanted to see how this would all play out. Was Tendler guilty? How would the KNH membership react? etc etc. Although my personal tendency is to think negatively about situations such as this, I really tempered any gut reactions that I had on the issue with a dose of Dan L’Kaf Zechus. Once it became painfully evident, through what I heard and read that things were looking bleak for Tendler I began to turn ever so slightly. However it was only after a conversation that I had with “G” ,a woman who Tendler paid off to deny their affair, that I really became outraged and convinced that he is an evil man. “G” revealed to me in graphic detail what occured between her and YOUR good “rabbi” and it was shocking to say the least. It is now clear to me that you, the congregants of KNH, must have known all along that there was “something rancid in denmark” and that you persisted in denying the truth. The question is why? and now I know why….the bulk of your congregation are BT’s who so desperatly want to belong to mainstream orthodoxy and gain a sense of belonging. Tendler with his hamburg hat, wife with attitude AND great yichus gave you the time of day and you reveled in it like drunken sailors in a whorehouse. It was too good to be true, reb moishe, ZTL’s ainakel was allowing you, in your mind a lowly BT, unprecedented access to his world. You could actually join him in his ivory tower as if you were an FFB. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate BT’s..contrary to any jokes Ive made in the past, but I do pity them. “Insideout” is correct….YOU created the monster, YOU have enabled a meglomaniac, YOU have persisted in allowing him his pulpit because you dont want his family to feel bad. Did you feel bad for poor “G”, who btw is mamish a teenok shenishba, when mordy took advantage of her? NO you didnt and WHY??? because you are selfish….you didnt want to loss your “ALL AREA ACCESS” pass to krumkeit. So forgive me, all you self rightous yiddiluch out there who resort to calling my frumkeit into question and to maligning anyone on this board who doesnt see fit to candy coat everything. It just so happens that a lot of you know me out there and you know that in “real life” i am not afraid to call it like I see it, no matter how unpopular that may be. i will continue to tell it like it is AND add my own personal touch of humor to this affair. Lord knows whenever I do ponder this I find it more than a tad depressing, as do many of my neighbors. Keeping things light is my way of dealing with what I perceive to be a real tragedy and I intend to continue until a REAL resolution is found here.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Excellent post by Jeffrey F. Cohen. I spoke with someone from KNH that is disgusted with the Rabbinate and how they are not helping them get rid of Tendler, she is getting so turned off to religion and I was so saddened by this. Anyone who has the balls to stand up to Tendler is very deserving of our respect.
March 8th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Jeff Cohen if you are so full of yourself as to put Esq. on your Blog name you are the BIGGEST POMPOUS ASS i know. Do you see
Shlit’a after my name. You think you impress us with the fact that your’e a lawyer. Do you know that the Chazon Ish said its assur to go to law school. So cut out the crap. By the way just in case you haven’t heard the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD HATES LAWYERS!!!
What the hell are you talking about “the almost deafening silence of the black hat community towards the victimization of vulnerable members living within it.” Thats THE BIGGEST CROCK OF SHIT I EVER HEARD. Its all lawyer bullshit that makes no sense. You think you can bullshit me?!!!!!!!! AMy father was the poisik hador! Sound familiar. You never in your life ever listened to a black hat rabbi. Get it through your head jerk.
WE DO NOT GIVE TWO FUCKING SHITS ABOUT YOUR FUCKING RETARD PERVERT MESSIAH!!!!
KNH never listened to anyone of us Black rabbis. Now you want us to save your ass? Are you outa your fucking double talking verbal diarahing lawyer mind?
You JEC take care of you r own problems. Use your koichis in a positive way instead of trying to impress me with your bullshit.
Dont you G-d damn dear fucking blame this mess on me and my friends!!!!
Go back into your hole!!!
March 8th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
Elaya you are mamash the gadol hador. Whats a smart guy like you doing in NH anyway?
March 8th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
I have to take exception to what Jeff Cohen is saying!
Any other shul who had a Rabbi who was a member of an organization (RCA),and that organization kicked him out … would not ask the organization why they did or ask to see evidence …
they would have fired him pronto …..
They wouldn’t need any other Rabbis for support … they would do what is right!
Jeff … don’t ask other Rabbis to do your dirty work …
A 1,000+ organization threw him the hell out
YU fired him
7 Rabbonim found him to be a liar … and recommended he no longer pasken any shaalis!
Harav Wosner issued a public responsa finding him to be an adulterer and issuing a psak that it is permitted and even an obligation embarrass him!
The New York Post has already written 3 articles of his disgusting behavior!
Dont ask any more Rabbis to do your work when you dont do anything…
You suspend him … and the following Shabbos, he stands there preaching to you ….
where in the whole world would this happen?
One of your members has the guts to pin a Post article on his tie … and you scream at him … you bunch of cowards…
You made a truce to have a peaceful shabbos..
so what do you get? 51 Shabbosim of disgrace!
Why dont a bunch of you go to his house and tell that if steps into KNH,
he will be humiliated.
Have one Shabbos of disgrace! and then you will have 51 Shabbosim of peace!
Call his brother Dr. Tendler, that he is no longer welcome in KNH, and if he should show up …. humiliate him ….
Taking away his shtender will not remove him!
Somebody reaching up and removing his crazy looking hat will remove him!
And yes!!! everybody should pin the post article on themselves and enter the shul that way ….
Being nice to this waking Chillul Hashem will not work …
Booing him as he walks in to KNH, turning around so that your backs face him will work …
Laugh and point at him!
Jeff! you dont need any more Rabbis …. You need people with guts and bravery,
you need people that will no longer be stepped upon by a crazy sick man!
You need to tell his supporters that they will also be humiliated as well!
List their names on the blog … and yes, make fun of them like Elya and his group,
thats the only way …
humiliation works …..being nice doesn’t!
March 8th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
The black hat xommunity has the evidence under tight raps, and you want us at KNH to throw him out on your say so. RELEASE THE TAPES IN A PUBLIC FORUM.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:30 pm
Further to my post
This Jeff, with all due respect, must also be done before Shabbos!
Call Michelle, yes Michelle and tell her that she and her whole famly are no longer welcome in KNH …..Take her special chair, break it to small pieces and place it in her lawn …
Let MT know, that if he ruins our lives …. his family will also be humiliated!
Yes, Michelle is a victim … so are all our wives ….
Tell her that she has a job to do …
to save her family from further humiliation…
I promise you these measures will work …
being nice won’t!
March 8th, 2006 at 8:39 pm
to anonymous 8:07
Frum serious people no longer need any tapes!
We need people with guts to go and physically remove this cancer from our midst ….
The black hat community doesnt need to be involved …
you Jeff, and your chevrah need to get involved!
This job can only be done by KNH!
Start by telling the Teichmans, Engelmans, Freidmans, Esquanzis etc
that this is war ….
Tell them if they come this Shabbos …
there will have a very disturbing shabbos
tell them to take their Rav and get the hell out of Monsey!
We will no longer tolerate this for one more Shabbos!
This Shabbos will be Shabbos Zachor …
this shabbos is the right time to rid ourselves from this modern day Ameleik!
We dont need to hear Tapes … we need to get rid of this sick perverted animal!
March 8th, 2006 at 8:39 pm
ich mamish farstay nisht. Farvuss darf yeder aina tzuherin tzu da tapes. Mir hat aiych shoen gizagt as ess iz duh tapes.
The Black hatters heard the tapes the RCA heard the tapes The Chassedim heard the tapes. All the Rabbis heard the tapes. Yet you still want to hear the tapes? whats pshat in that?
Your problem is that all these years you never believed in any Rabbi. You only listened to that minuval umuka schin. Dont tell me you want the rabbis to do something and than say you dont believe them that there are tapes.
What kind of pervert are you that you must actually hear MT having phone sex?
March 8th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Listen Elya, believe me, if you knew me you’d know I get it. But I have to disagree with you on one point, which Ronnie Schreiber tAlked about and let me tell you whoever that poster is he is 100% on the ball. This whole business about ‘enablers” being guilty, that is poshit stupid. Kol Yisroel areivim zeh lozeh only goes so far. You make it sound like one of Mordy’s shick yingels stood next to him and guided the royal ramrod into one of these kooks. Thats crazy. Don’t think for one second that these people knew what was going on to the extent that it was AND was in some position to stop it. Otherwise they were not enablers. I me not sure if Ronnie would agree, but if you ask me, before these wacko chicks became victims, they were the enablers. They kept coming back for more and more until Mordy played all his cards and was done with them. You want to know who is guilty? its Mordy. No one else. He is guilty for his sins as much as any of us are guilty for ours. So I don’t buy the enabler crap, the victim crap, or the Jeffrey Cohen crap. But at least he means well.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:42 pm
Rabbi Mordecai Tendler is FFB, so is
Rabbi Aron Tendler FFB,
So are most of the following:
Sexual Abuse is found in every “group�:
Rabbi Ephraim Bryks
Rabbi Eliezer Eisgrau
Rabbi Benyamin Fleischman
Rabbi Marc Gafni
Rabbi Jonathan Ginsburg
Rabbi Mark A. Golub
Cantor Mark Horowitz
Rabbi Alan Jay “Shneur” Horowitz, MD
Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum
Rabbi David E. Lipman
Rabbi Mordecai Magencey (Psychologist)
Rabbi Ken “Yaakov” Menken
Rabbi Michael Ozair
Rabbi Matis Weinberg
Schedule of some Pending Clergy Abuse Cases
in Jewish communities in the US
Original post by Jewish Whistleblower
Rabbi Gabriel Ohayon
Cantor Robert Shapiro
Rabbi Baruch Lanner
Parole hearing November 1, 2006 (or shortly prior to that date, as it is his potential early release date).
Rabbi Jerrold Martin Levy
Prison release scheduled for January 06, 2007.
Rabbi David Kaye
Maryland Attorney General’s Office decision regarding Rabbi David Kaye. Will only be announced if there are criminal charges. Likely to be a further Dateline NBC follow up due to likely charges against others in the documentary, at least in VA.
Cantor Michael Segelstein
Originally arraigned on one count each of attempted sexual assault, battery with intent to commit sexual assault and open and gross lewdness. He pled guilty as part of a plea agreement to open or gross lewdness, received one year suspended sentence with conditions and court ordered into counseling and was discharged from probation on December 2, 2005. He still faces a civil trial. Last I checked pre-trial was scheduled for April 24, 2006 at 09:30 AM and trial was set for May 1, 2006 at 09:30 AM.
See TAC ...
March 8th, 2006 at 8:48 pm
SOME CORRECTIONS -SOLUTIONS AT VERY END
TendlerTruths Says:
March 7th, 2006 at 2:26 am
1) Hillel Tendler lost his position at a major Baltimore law firm due to a complaint …
I have no information of that but here is Hillel’s current info.
2) Moshe Tendler has a sister, who resided in Monsey, that he placed in cherem because she got divorced and therefore disgraced the family reputation as The Perfect Role Model for Donations Far and Wide. Bad for business, you understand. There has been no contact between them in over 40 years.
I wasn’t going to bring this up because i don’t feel that it’s relevant to the case ar hand. (unless someone would like to pursue the genetic flaw theory. Perhaps a missing morality gene. ) But as long as it was brought up it might as well be correct. The reason Papa Tendler ran her out of town is because she had an affair. Which is likewise the reason she got divorced. I believe ger name was Rose and she was married to a dentist, his name eludes me. It’s possible her beau was a professor, but i was young at the time and didn’t pursue all the gory details that the attendees on this blog love so much.
3) The story of the twin sister cousins in a pornographic magazine is a dreadful falsehood, and simply indicative of the long term jealousy that permeates the bizarre world of orthodox judaism…..
This statement as convincing as the previous one about the Satmar conspiracy. Which group was jealous of R’ Moshe so they spread a rumor his granddaughters were HOs? The story is correct.
3) The two sisters living in Israel are…
I have no information on them. Haven’t seen them in 30 years. I hope they are well.
Reb Elya,
The language is not apprciated and you should throw out your TVs and stop the mixed swimming.
ANONYMOUS Says:
March 7th, 2006 at 7:01 pm
Very good post with very good insight.
NH INSIDER Says:
March 7th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
Instead we have some pedephile Rabbi….
I do not believe he has yet been accused or charged with involvement with Minors. There this comment is incorrect as is your spelling.
Resident of NH Says:
March 8th, 2006 at 7:17 am
Rav Elya please have the choulent and testosterone delivered to the protest to keep us warm it gets windy in front of knh.
Did you stop to think: if you skipped the Cholent, it might not be so windy?
Anonymus Says:
March 8th, 2006 at 8:56 am
But the fact remains that numerous Rabbonim who are in possession of tapes, DNA,
The rabbanim are NOT in possession of the tapes or DNA. They have seen and heard the evidence. Those with physical evidence are playing their cards close to their chests.Keep in mind, in the evidence is made public you give him time to prepare a defense. Don’t expect to see it public before a civil trial.
Jeffrey F. Cohen, Esq. Says:
March 8th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
Like so many others you blame the rabbis of the community for not ejecting him. The problem is, the MO community has ignored traditional chassidic and Litvishe rabbis for decades. They have been more sophisticated then the old fashion rabbis by sending theor children to co-ed schools and camps, not covering their hair or dressing as is appropriate for a proper Bas Yisrael. Attending movies, ballet, theatre and all types of entertainment that assor by Torah standards, now they come running to the rabbanim (how did them a favor and listed to their claims and reviewed the evidence and said get rid of the bum.) The 7 rabbanim cover a wide spectrum of the chareidi community. But to run to YOUR SHUL and kick out the Rabbi YOU PICKED, because he was sufficiently lenient in his halachic opinions is YOUR JOB NOT THEIRS! The tragic Kitty Genevose story is disingenious here. It is the MO who have disregarded major tracts of Shulchan Orech and that cut them off from the real Rabbanim, not vice versa.
While I echo Reb Shmuel’s sentiments. I have managed to do it with profanity. In closing I OFFER THE FOLLOWING 3 SOLUTIONS:
1) Here is the phone number of a hitman that loves these types of cases. Do not call for jollies. If you have first hand information, and wish to meet with him and discuss it, call and make an appointment. Ask to speak to the “Rav” or leave a number where you can be reached. This indvidual does not like to play games. Do not piss him off. It may be the last thing you do. Tell him you have a problem you’d like to discuss. Do not tell him you got his number on the internet. He become violent. Tell him you got it from another “rav”. This not a game. Here’s the number: 356-3574
2) This suggestion is straight forward. Purim morning everyone (males) show up with the same identical costume and baseball bats. wear gloves. …etc. According to the Rambam, in this case everyone will be putter.
3) draw Mohammed cartoons and sign his name. Post them all over the web. drop off copies on the steps of the mosques on suffern and Chestnut Ridge.
Disclaimer:This post is for entertainment purposes only. Any suggestions are intended to be humorous and not acted upon by any person. If any person real or fictious feels he has been alluded to it is merely coincidental. The writer is not responsible for the actions of others and strongly suggest that all persons refrain from violent and/or criminal activity and wholeheartdely condemns such activity.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Correction to corrections
While I echo Reb Shmuel’s sentiments. I have managed to do it without profanity. I hope everyone can keep it civil. The anonomity of the blog should not be an excuse to lower our standards.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Some good points are being made. No other shul would be so dominated by a rav. When it was time for a Rav to leave KY, the leadership took care of it, efficiently, and they found a new rav. When the Bridal minyan needed to make a change, the shul leadership accomplished it, quietly, efficiently. Learn a lesson from the other shuls. You need to lead, not follow.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Ever heard of Kol Yisrael Araivim Zeh Lazeh? All Rabbi’s, if they wear a sirrugah, a black kippa, a black hat, a striemel, or a chinchilla on their head should all get together to get rid of Tendler of NH. He is a dangerous person from a powerful family, and KNH has either koolaid druggies or very new baalei teshuvah that are unsure what to do. If every Rabbi told their congregation to make Tendler’s life miserable, we would all do it. Not for KNH, but for ourselves! How can we just stand back and not help our fellow Jews, this is disgusting. When we all go up to heaven after 120 years, G-d will ask each of us what did you do to get rid of the evil Tendler in your midst? I hope we won’t be sent “downstairs” to join Tendler in gehenim because we said “NOTHING”!!! I hope the KNH people wake up and make his life miserable this Shabbos. As far as michelle’s throne and the menuval’s shtender, it should be burned because it is like an ashaira, a tree used for idolotry!!!
March 8th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
I don’t agree. It is not up to the rabbis. It is up to the membership of KNH. It is their shul. Tendler is rav of the the rabbis. He is rav of KNH. It is up to KNH membership, and no one else, to fire him, if they want to. It is no one else’s decision or responsibility.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
Jeff tell me what the strategy for tomorrow is. Are you going to allow this bastard to walk in brazenly in shul? Or are you going to tell him… that the party is over …?
Reb Shmuel Shlitah
zei villin nisht heren dee Tapes … zei villin inz meshgah machen! ober ich been nisht zayer naar!
Es iz shoin zeit ehm puter ze veren,
ehr iz a farshtinkina hint!
March 8th, 2006 at 9:04 pm
I meant to write Tendler is NOT rav of the rabbis. He is rav of KNH.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
LISTEN Holy Hailiger Yid! You can’t compare KY and Ohaiv Shalom to KNH. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!!
March 8th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
Explain, Resident of NH. No idea what you are saying.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:13 pm
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!
March 8th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
I want to add some points to Jeff
KNH until they suspended Mordy, actually did nothing!
It was, yes the Rabbis with black hats that actually got the ball rolling!
It was a non-knh member who got the Rabbis to act; this non-member got the press involved! This non-member actually suffered financially to the tune of thousands of dollars … and yes he wears a black hat!
This non-member put his whole family in jeopardy, taking on, your fight!
I hope he is not a blog reader …. because he will be very upset that I am talking about him,
he is not looking for praise, he is not looking for anything but to protect you guys from this sick Rav! He is a hero!
Its your turn Jeff ….
“Lekach Nozarta” “For this you were created!
March 8th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
Listen to me. He will not go. He ignores a suspension by his Board. He calls his Board illegal. He summons them to Din Torah. Next is the derivitive action suit against the Board. A defamation action against the 3 stooges who signed that ridulous letter claiming they were the new board, bankruptcy filings, more lawsuits, the Board answers hazmona tells him they look forward to seeiong him at Bais Din.
Now lets fast forward to 2007. NY Post Headline news “New allegations against the Randy Rabbi who back in 2005 was sued by a former congregant”. Get it. OR DO I NEED TO SPELL IT OUT BETTER FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE. IT WILL CONTINUE AND NOT END UNLESS YOU:
HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING OPEN TO THE ENTIRE MONSEY COMMUNITY. HAVE AS MANY RABBONIM AS YOU LIKE ON THE STAGE AT YSV. PLAY THE TAPES(OR SHOULD I SAY THE CD ROM) FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR. SHOW THE DNA REPORT WITH ALL THE WITNESS WHO HARVESTED IT.
PLEASE DO NOT LET ANOTHER DAY GO BY.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:49 pm
First things first!
Notice to “PD” …. you know as well as us, what Mordechai Tendler did to your ex-wife…
How do you have the chutzpah to bring your precious girls to this house of tumah …. are you sick in the head??
How do you allow your daughters to watch the pervert who molested and took advantage of their mother!
What went thru your head when you heard the pervert say that the reason Hashem brought Katrina is because of immorality?
Well Jeff, your first order of business is to call Child Protective Services and tell them that a former Board member finds pleasure in taking his minor daughters on a weekly basis to a place where a pervert who molested their own mother is staring at them and who knows what is going on in Tendler’s sick perverted head when he sees them!
March 8th, 2006 at 9:56 pm
PD has no choice but to support RMT right now. First of all, RMT helped PD gain custody of his children, taking the kids away form their own mother. Secondly, as we speak RMT is sitting on a din torah with Josh E. on a divorse case with PD’s new wife’s mother. The mother is trying to get a Get from her husband. Oy Vey. You couldn;t make up this stuff.Whoever is negotiating buying the rights to this story, please cut me in on the action.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
I agree with anon.9:28, the Rabbonim should get their act together and prevent further Chillul Hashem, what are they waiting for??? The good year blimp to have a sign on it saying Welcome to NH, Sexual preditors are welcome??? When Pinchas saw kuzbi and zimri having a little fling he speared them in the act through their genitals!!! He didn’t say, “Well, DUH, I am not the head honcho here, I am wearing a black robe and sandels so I don’t want to get my hands sullied with the blood of goyim. And after all, I am a holy COHAIN!!! He’s not even from my tribe, who cares?” No, he acted, and for that G-d blessed him! The Rabbis should arm themselves with spears and lead us in an attack on the evil in our midst, and for that we will all get brochot. MI LAHashem A-ly!!!
March 8th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
The Rabbis dont have to do anything anymore …. KNH members have to step up to the plate now!
March 8th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
The tape that wasn’t is the tape that is. The lost tape resurfaces.
March 8th, 2006 at 10:08 pm
It’s worse than I thought.
March 8th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
And what if the KNH people can’t get rid of him? He has a lifetime contract, doesn’t he, does he own the building?
March 8th, 2006 at 10:41 pm
Resident…if no one steps foot into the shul he can own the building biz heint biz morgan and it wont matter. the task at hand here is to make the rancid rabbi irrelevant. whoever it was that suggested that he be placed in a virtual chayrem, i agree. lets boycott him AND his family until he does the right thing….steps down and slinks off to eretz yisroel like so many perverts before him. chazak v’ematz…..lets show some cohones here people. dont bitch and moan on the interenet and then offer a hearty good shabbos next time you see the anal ainekel. IGNORE HIM, TOSS A NASTY GLANCE HIS WAY AND BY ALL MEANS KEEP YOUR WIVES (ESPECIALLY THE MISEKEITIN) AWAY FROM HIM.
March 8th, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Don’t try that spear stuff…….
You might hit your wife too.
March 8th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
It looks like Insider is gone for real.
March 8th, 2006 at 11:14 pm
CORRECTING CHAYIM YANKEL at 8:48
Chayim Yankel, perhaps you were just a young boy but I was not, and knew all the parties involved….the Tendler sister, Rose, did not have an affair she simply divorced….older Tendler got up in shul after putting her in cherem and running her out of town and announced that she was having an affair –which was as false as most of the accusations that both he and his sons have perpetrated against a multitude of innocent people in Monsey ever since.
It is very relevant in that the MO dates back almost 40 years, and has proven consistently successful in our community where people want to believe the absolute worst of each other.
You are correct that she eventually remarried a professor, and you are correct that in the stilted minds of our oylam her prior divorce/cherem and later marriage were merged into one, historic timeline notwothstanding, so that the cherem in retrospect was due to an “affair” with her eventual husband. This is exactly what the Tendlers want to accomplish.
YOU ARE CONDONING CHEREM FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR SIMPLE ADULTERY???!!! First, that is a bizarre and rash extreme both halachically and within the context of our society. MOST IMPORTANT, HOWEVER, SO WHY ISN’T MT NOW IN CHEREM AND WE WOULD ALL BE RID OF THE PENIS WITH YICHUS? EVEN HIS BROTHERS ADMITTED HE HAS ENGAGED IN CONSENTUAL ADULTERY (see Yakov and Hillel Tendler’s statement to the NY Post)….NU? BY YOUR OWN REMARKS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN HIS SHMEKER OUT OF TOWN BASED UPON THE PRECEDENT OF HIS OWN SICK FAMILY’S HISTORY
CY, You owe an old grandmother a real public apology for stating on an open blog like this, by name, that shw had engaged in an affair and was therefore rightfully run out of town — because both she and her children and grandchildren and other friends and relatives do read this…
and you call yourself a yireh shomayim??? You were a little boy then and only heard this has fractured and convoluted history…we were all sitting in CSM through all of this………..Naar!
March 8th, 2006 at 11:33 pm
Those who will daven tomorrow @ KNH, start Booing MT when he walks in ..
and post names of who gives you a hard tomorrow
March 8th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
PUBLIC APOLOGY
I would like to apologize to an old grandmother, her children, and grandchildren, of which I would guess that Tendler truths is one. I aplogize to you. I was caught up in the frenzy of naming as many victims/ NH residents/ board members/ Rabbis/ as possible. As I stated, I was privy to this general knowledge and chose not to introduce it. That Tendler senior is a pathological liar I’m well aware, HERE is an example in his own words. As long as we’re on the subject don’t blame Reb Moshe, he had no say in the shidduch. Here is the story in Dr. M.D.Tendler’s own words. Here is Tendler Senior’s hashkafa’s on the gemara, chazal, and Gedolai Yisroel.
In a 1995 interview for the book BOYCHIKS IN THE HOOD Dr. Tendler makes the statement that the “Modern orthodox are the ethicists for the chassidim” He has either forgotten or ignored the fact that such luminaries as Louie Wolfish, Kenny Gribetz, Mordy and Aaron Tendler came out of his shul.
Tendler Truths,
Were did you sit in CSM? On HG Z”L’s side or on SC’s side? By WQ the candyman?
March 9th, 2006 at 1:47 am
Perry Dubinsky is a monster. It fascinates me that you write out the name of MTs victims but choose to protect a wife abuser who is practically sleeping with tendler to get whatever he wants. Give me a break. The man is a rasha.
Tendler did the same thing with his ex that he did with all the women he hit on (and to her credit she never succumbed btw)-he told everyone that they were crazy. I know her well, and she is anything but crazy. She is a highly intelligent, high integrity woman who has held on to her sanity and faith through horrific experiences.
With regards to Michelle being a victim: she is not a victim at this point. She is an ENABLER and is partially responsible for Tendler’s abuses. It pains me to say this; she was absolutely gracious and lovely to me when I lived in NH, sold me my house (a very good experience) and cooked for me when I was pregnant. She welcomed me into her home with warmth and generousity. That being said, she has endorsed his corruption at this point.
The tendler affair is like pornography. It is sick to look at and be around but hard to put down. Just say no. Stop going to the shul. Every man that is there helps make the minyan. Stop with the excuses. There is no good reason to be there. Vote with your feet. Stop whining about all the money you sunk into “your” shul. Cut your losses and get out. Tendler abused congregant after congregant at KNH and you enabled it. You know what is happening now and instead of supporting the victims, you continue to whine and complain on blogs.
The woman who is suing tendler in court is nothing less than a heroine. I can imagine the flack she has taken, and the threats she is subjected to. This Taanit Esther (internation agunah day btw) take the time to write her a supportive note with your mishloach manot. Tell her that you are proud that she is the ONE person who has taken a stand against him, at great risk to herself. Make sure she is protected from Tendler’s thugs and threats and do tshuvah for buying his lies about how crazy she and all the victims are. You believed his spin, hook line and sinker. Now think of ways to help undo the damage you helped do.
March 9th, 2006 at 1:51 am
P.S.
I don’t need to hear the tapes. I spoke to 4 of the women he hit on and all of their stories were the same. (and they don’t know each other!) They were absolutely credible. Stop using the tapes as an excuse. An independent investigation team that specialized in clergy abuse heard them, the RCA heard them, the Monsey rabbis heard them. That’s enough. If you want soap operas, turn on the t.v. If you are the kind of people who love to see car accidents from up close, don’t transfer your morbid fascination to these tapes. THEY ARE SIMPLY AN EXCUSE FOR YOU TO SHIRK YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO ACT TO GET HIM OUT OF KNH.
YOU ARE USING THE TAPES AS AN EXCUSE. EVEN IF THEY ARE PLAYED FOR YOU, IT WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.
The tapes are irrelevant. There is enough proof without them.
March 9th, 2006 at 8:21 am
I mustve missed something…..where does Perry Dubinsky fit in here? Or are we just randomly calling people out here? Cause if we are let me chime in…..ISIAH THOMAS IS A MORON AND JIM DOLAN IS HIS ENABLER! there I said it. I feel better now.
March 9th, 2006 at 8:31 am
Perry Dubinsky is a major player, because he played the tapes years ago to people, in these tapes you clearly hear MT seducing his then wife …
and then he went and said publically at the Tendler Fest … that it is all a lie and his ex-wife made it all up and denied that there were tapes..
Perry must come clean now … to prove to the world that MT threatened him to say this ….
Reb Elye… dus is emes veyatziv!
March 9th, 2006 at 8:33 am
Elya Shvei,
Esther Dubinsky was one of Tendler’s victims you FUCKING MORON.
If you don’t know any information about the Tendler issue let me direct you to the blog about SICK LUBABITCH REBELS GONE MAD.
If you want to stay on this blog I would suggest being a little funnier than you have been
March 9th, 2006 at 8:35 am
I LOVE THE FACT THAT EVERY TIME I GET ON YHIS SITE IT STARTS WITH
“CHANA LEHRMAN YOU PIECE OF SHIT”
March 9th, 2006 at 8:36 am
I THINK CHANA LEHRMAN IS A VITIM AT THIS POINT
March 9th, 2006 at 8:39 am
I received a number of telephone calls last night and this morning concerning the posts made on this blog.
Suffice to say that except for getting my initials correct, nary a scintilla of truth can be found in either the KNHMember1 9:49 post or the Anonymous 9:56 post of yesterday evening.
If KNHMember1, or any person posting here, has either a comment or a question for me, then feel free to contact me at ... - while I appreciate the rights of all of you to post comments on this blog in an anonymous fashion if you so choose, this matter is one which is on an altogether different level for me and therefore I choose not to participate. Moreover, the presumptions and other conclusory allegations made in the abovementioned posts attributed to me are not only uncalled for, but violate certain basic rights of respect that we are all entitled to and deserve.
Again, should anyone wish to contact me, the address above is sufficient. I ask in return that the people participating in this web log, many of you my friends and neighbors, respect my own and my family’s right to privacy.
Finally, if anyone does email me, please include your name and telephone number if you desire a response. I receive hundreds of email a day and therefore cannot guarantee a reply.
As to the poster named “Critical Says,” your characterizations are at a minimum libelous and are certainly unjustified, and I ask that you post a public apology. I could easilly expose you as less than truthful in this forum but will not do so based on the simple premise that here they deserve not even a hint of justification. However, should I find myself in the pleasure of your company in a public forum, I look forward to the opportunity of responding.
March 9th, 2006 at 8:56 am
What happened at Shul KNH this morning ?
March 9th, 2006 at 9:30 am
If you want to know the facts about Esty Dubinsky she fits the profile of Mordy to a tee. Her whole story was already repeated here how she fought with Michelle over her lover. She’s no victim, she’s was his lover. And Critical you jackass Mordy helped her try to get custody because she blackmailed him to go public with there affair and she was so helpless his help meant nothing and she lost anyway. Get youre facts straight jackass.
March 9th, 2006 at 9:38 am
And Perry sounds like a bully.
March 9th, 2006 at 9:39 am
Perry … you are one big liar …..
Perry… you didn’t play the tapes to MK, FB?
This is not about your family …
Come out and expose your Pervert Rabbi … for the good of this community!
We are not going to call you …. We know what happened!
its time for you to tell us your sorry ..
you put yourself in all this when you publically denounced Esther at the “Tendler Fest” you G-d damned liar!
How do you bring your daughters to face the one who seduced your ex-wife?
March 9th, 2006 at 9:45 am
someone should be posting Mordy to this site: ...
March 9th, 2006 at 9:47 am
Perry
Stop telling us about the privacy of your family
you are the one who talked publically against the mother of your five children!
You are the one who played tapes to your friends ….
You are the one who exposes your children to the very person who seduced your ex-wife ….
Dont pull the wool over our eyes!
Now you have an opportunity to do true Teshuvah and condemn publically this pervert!
Now the ball is in your court to stop this Chillul Hashem!
March 9th, 2006 at 10:02 am
ITS TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! I’M GONNA TORCH RASHA TENDLER’S HOUSE TONIGHT! AND WHEN HE AND HIS FAMILY COME RUNNING OUT, I’LL PICK THEM OFF ONE BY ONE WITH A RIFLE. WHO’S WITH ME?
March 9th, 2006 at 10:09 am
Elya, I’m not liking the tone of the shiur today, its naarish mishigas. This Knhmember1 sounds like Perrys exwife if youask me. Why doesn’t she just call him instead of airing her filthy gatchkes out like this? Thats the trouble with BTs like her. They are frum until the drek hits the dreidel and then their ikur meiskite come out. And if you ask me the biggest thing he has to answer for is where the hell he got a name like Perry in teh first place.
March 9th, 2006 at 10:15 am
“I THINK CHANA LEHRMAN IS A VICTIM AT THIS POINT”
Yes, a victim of the creature that now goes by the name “Plaintiff”. The post should have been removed by Steven. The positive aspect of it is that it exposes the midos of “Plaintiff”. It is completely clear to me that she seduced the rabbi, as Chana claimed.
March 9th, 2006 at 10:29 am
THAT WAS A JOKE, BTW. DON”T SEND THE POLICE AFTER ME.
March 9th, 2006 at 10:30 am
Esty Dubinsky is HOT. She had all kinds of fun flirting with all the boys in shul. And she also has a very short temper. I wonder who’s really to blame in this whole situation.
March 9th, 2006 at 10:33 am
Formernewhempstead, sounds like you just answered your own question.
March 9th, 2006 at 10:38 am
Anonymousless, why torch the house? Why shoot them with a rifle. Their children didn’t do anything, they are innocent. I have met their kids and they are real gems, and I think this post is about The Menuval Tendler. I know you are joking and would never do that, but the joke was really not appreciated. As far as Tendler is concerned, we can make his life miserable and show him no kavod. Not that the meshuganah is going to leave, but it’s the only thing we can do. The whole thing gets me so sickened, when will this be over already!
March 9th, 2006 at 10:43 am
NH INSIDER….fuck you you cocksucker motherfucking fat jew bastard. i kick the shit out of kikes like you and piss in their eye sockets on a regular basis. since you know who i am come get me, bitch. problem is your a fucking pussy and u wouldnt dare approach me cause you know id destroy your kike ass. FUCK YOU. as for dubinsky, im sorry i didnt keep track of all the names…it wasnt that important to me. I HAVE A LIFE….you might want to consider one yourself. LOSER
March 9th, 2006 at 11:31 am
Rav Elya, come to shul (KNH) this shabbos, I’d like to hear you curse Tendler out, you are good! Save your hate and energy for the real mamzir. I would like to see Tendlers’ picture in one of those mailings warning us about rapists and pedifiles (sp?). Put up posters of him at Five Star Judaica, the grapevine, auction mart, T&A, BYM, warning everyone about him. Someone should at least set off a stink bomb in his office, then again the pig wouldn’t notice the smell. If the rabbonim don’t do something someone is going to hire the mafia to go after him….
March 9th, 2006 at 11:38 am
I wanted to share with you the lovely things that one of the wonderful Tendler supporters is doing. Please read this web page: ...
March 9th, 2006 at 11:58 am
I just wanted to share what this nut case Vicki Polin has been doing:
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Yep, ... is no more.
Of course, the blog posted on her blog that I hacked into her email account.
Another Vicki lie.
March 9th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
you want to see me tell him off? no fucking problem. i hope its evident that i dont give a shit. im more than willing to show up for shabbos mincha and rip him yet another asshole. whos coming with me?
March 9th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
He didn’t seduce Estie. He hit on her. she held her own. So be careful with your words. She’s suffered enough. Her ex’s character is pretty apparent no?
March 9th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
where are you NHINSIDER???? i want to kick your ass. im challenging you….COME GET ME! you know where i live….come on down, bitch. im so filled with rage that i want to make you my ‘korban’. i dont even care if i get locked up, been there done that, anger managment class was fun. it would be worth it just for the chance to humiliate you. show your face u pussy ass coward…..IM WAITING CUNT. LET ME SHOW YOU US LUBABS GONE BAD GET DOWN
March 9th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Jewish Survivors posted at 11:38, “I wanted to share with you the lovely things that one of the wonderful Tendler supporters is doing. Please read this web page:
JewishSurvivor, Bitch, maybe you didn’t read clearly my last post at 3/7 7:01. So now you force me to take things to the next level and spell it out for you more clearly.
We don’t give a fuck about any of you. You bitches are as guilty for destroying New Hempstead as Mordy is. Since when does a woman have to open her legs and spread em when a guy offers? Cause that’s all Mordy is. A guy. Frankly, he is a guy with a great come on strategy. He should write books for guys on how to pick up chicks. He is Rabbi Casanova.
Adina ain’t no victim. Esty Dubinski ain’t no victim, Batya Siegel Penina Klaver every ho skank that graced New Humpstead with their presence. Ain’t no victims.
By the way, Esty who I gave you all the details about in my first post, I saw with my own eyes how crazy she was. I saw her attack Michelle, steal Michelle’s stupid chair, bullshit like that. Catfights. Anyone who lived in NH 10 years ago and pretends not to know is a liar. She didn’t do that for no reason. She did it because she was stupid enough to believed Mordy was going to make her his Esther. Period. She bought the bullshit. He played her good until he was done with her. If her ex did get custody of his kids then all I can say is justice prevailed. Good for him, but who gives a fuck about him anyway? He is not the story. He is a bit player in an epic disaster brought about by one man and a group of his bitches. Mordy should be black, he has a posse. Any of you skanks care to divulge as to his size? Maybe he really is black.
Believe me, if Mordy did leave Michelle for any one of these skanks, there would be no story. No one would give a shit. Mordy would be Rabbi, Michelle would be the check out lady at Hatzlocha Grocery, and Adina or Esty would be the rebbetzin. Yet we should pay because these losers bought his line hook line and sinker.
What they are are women with terrible judgment, who made bad decisions, got involved with a married man, fucked him, loved every thrust and jab, drank his royal seed like fiends, who got used, who woke up when it was too late, and then ran all over crying about what the big bad man with the big hard cock did to them. They let him fuck each one of them. Mordy is not an abuser, he is a horny bastard who is doing what every guy on this blog only wishes he was doing. The fact that he is a rabbi makes him a phony hypocrite liar. That is why he deserves his hell. Whatever these women got they did to themselves. If they are victims they victimized themselves. If they are pigs, its because they swam in the mud.
JewishSurvivor, unless you are an 90 year old man who came out of the Holocaust, in which case I extend my apology for misjudgiung you, you are a pathetic loser whore who needs all this bullshit in your life to give you a purpose. That’s why these idiots haven’t gotten rid of old Mort. Because they need this bullshit in their lives to fill the empty holes inside of them. They need to leech off all of you and make your lives miserable because some asshole faggots like Critical, Insider, KNHMember1, JWB, Keneinehora and others think these whores are important. They are as important as any other whores.
These women are as guilty for destroying New Hempstead as Morty.
Jewishsurvivor, call Mark Drek for some therapy now that you read my post, take a few pills, call Vicki, have sex with Adina, and go blog somewhere else. Keep your links to bullshit off this blog.
March 9th, 2006 at 1:27 pm
Reb Elya
Vos bistee meshigah? ich hub gemint az dee bist a normaler pershoin. Mit dey mishagoim ken min nish azoiy reden …
vos verst dee azoi oif geregt, es iz nur a blog!
March 9th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
OK guys! It’s Thursday already … what are your plans for this Shabbos?
Are you going to allow MT to preach morality to you this Shabbos again?
Are you going to allow the Englemans,
the Esquanizis (Mr. Nebraska),
the Dublinskys (the meshuganir who brings his daughters every shabbos to face the guy who did their mother)
the Freidmans (the father of the lunatic who carries the breifcase)
the levines (the inmate)
the Hirschorns (the lady that used to meet MT on a regular basis in restaurants)
Are you goin to allow these families to continue the Chillul Hashem ?
Or are you going to be men and tell them that its Curtains for this ongoing charade?
Are you going to allow this guy with the silly hat to walk into shul walk up those stairs and sit next to the Holy Torah?
Or are you going to BOO him, until he leaves?
Are you going to say to Michelle “Good Shabbos?”
or are you going to tell her to take her pervert husband and get out of town?
Tell us guys … we are waiting for an answer!
March 9th, 2006 at 1:56 pm
Member…..ich bin a tzedreita. in gansin. ich hub a muhl gehert a maisa fon meina mashpiah….de alter from kishkev…ARGGGGHHH nevermind…..but the cats out of the bag….I am a talmud musmach from the alter from kishkev! so now u know. i guess my kids wont be getting good shidduchim. how awful….they just may have to work to support their families, tragic. btw, INSIDER….theres an old cliche “people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones” you certainly wouldnt want me posting on here about YOUR infidelities now would you? Oh and I can, believe that. Cause now I have an idea as to who u are. So dont trifle with me. Im your worst nightmare, an experienced blogger who could give a fuck what anyone thinks. unlike most of you I have the balls to stand for what I believe in and up to those who threaten me.
March 9th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
In the spirit of Purim I offer this from the RCA (supposedly)http://www.thejewishweek.com/bottom/specialcontent.php3?artid=1133
March 9th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
UPDATE
There have been 2 new filings in the court case Adina vs. Tendler & KNH. Both filings are in response to prior filings by KNH’s attorneys.
I One filing denies the details of KNH’s counterclaim. No useful details given. Nothing interesting.
II The other filing challenges KNH’s effort to have the case moved from Manhattan to Rockland County. Adina claims that her legal residence has been 360 Park Avenue in NYC since 1990.
This is surprising to me, on several levels. Adina lived with Levi in the Victoria Gardens apartments in Monsey for quite a long time, and then they moved to an apartment in New Hempstead. Also, 360 Park Avenue area is in one of the most expensives places on Earth to live. If Adina can afford to live there, then why didn’t she get a car instead of begging people to give her rides all over Monsey or walking long distances on the side of the road?
Also interesting: Only KNH’s lawyers made a motion to have the case relocated to Rockland. Tendler’s lawyers did not, which is shocking since it would seem that a Rockland judge would be more favorable to Tendler than the liberal Manhattan judges. I guess that Tendler wants to keep the case as far away from Rockland as possible, even if it harms his chances of winning the case.
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Note: Due to the lack of serious dialogue in this blog anymore, and I am no longer participating in the conversations here. I will try to post updates occasionally.
March 9th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
insider…..do your homework…she lives in 360 park? thats an office bldg on 28th and park….i should know i used to work there. so thats a bunch of bullshit but typical for the jerkoffs that write on this blog.
March 9th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Insider
Are you not impressed by the wonderful penmanship of this menuval Elye? But we d are not criticize him otherwise he will curse and demean you. What a pathetic piece of self righteous garbage.
March 9th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Elya, what do you make of the ganse maiseh today? These shoitehs in New hempstead are mamish mishigooim. The upshot of all of this is that they think anyone cares.
March 9th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
fuck you ploni. if you have a problem with me email me and lets so how you run your mouth…shmelka29@aim.com im so tired of u self righteous bastards. u are full of shit with your goody 2 shoes attitude…you really think g-d gives a crap about you? NEWSFLASH he doesnt! thats why your son is a chronic masturbater, your daughter is popping pills in her bais yaakov bathroom, your wife is busy having phone sex your rav and your father stole money from the nursing homes he ran. see? i know all about you. now crawl back into that hole you live in and die
March 9th, 2006 at 2:40 pm
mish…these are perhaps the most pathetic bunch of losers ive ever been around. like ive said before…if its my wife involved this bb wouldnt exist. i wouldve handled this like a man. so instead we get a bunch of whiny yiddiluch like ploni who have to darshen about what to do and run to rabbi schabes and pretend like they give a shit because it helps their grubbah bullvan daughters get shidduchim. isnt so easy to always say the right thing? a lot easier than doing it, thats for sure. you guys go “klehr your shailahs” and stroke your beards….that will solve the problem. ill continue to rip the moronic losers that post on here. ive come to realize that more than half the crap on here is bullshit and after today i have proof positive of that.
March 9th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Elya, listen, I dig everything you say but don’t make comments like you have proof if you don’t because then your neemonis is going to come into question too. Whats good for the goose……
March 9th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
Elya Shvei writes:
“insider…..do your homework…she lives in 360 park?”
I did my homework. In fact, I had a copy of the complete filing in my hands just 2 hours ago.
Adina’s original suit against Tendler claims her residence is 360 Park Avenue. Her signed affidavit that I referenced above also claims her residence is 360 Park Avenue.
I have no reason to doubt your statement that 360 Park is an office building. Your question should not be directed to me, it should be directed to Adina. Why does she claim that her place of residence is an office building?
March 9th, 2006 at 3:00 pm
One thing about Adina, she is making Tendler shit in his pants (excuse my french). Which is more than we are doing, his highness is probably inviting all his uncles and aunties for shabbos to protect him from the beating he deserves. Keep going adina!!!
March 9th, 2006 at 3:04 pm
Insider you poya, you sure you had the document in your hand and not something else? What is the address of the lawyer representing the menuval plaintiff?
March 9th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
insider.. i believe you that the filing lists 360 Park as her address but…..she doesnt live there. so why make a comment about it being the most expensive spot in NY to live. its not. unless u have a fetish for hookers trolling your block at night than this ‘hood is nothing to rave about. its near baruch college and in general so so as far as NYC goes.
mish….i dont think i made proof positive claims to anything. the 360 park issue? well that i know about, cause that was my place of business for 3 years. other than the FACT that NHInsider and Ploni are assholes, i dont think i claimed anything to be fact. my opinions are my opinions and if people out there find them offensive than just skip reading my posts. it aint hard….but the truth is you heebes love reading my posts…cause i say what most you wish you could say and dont have the balls to say. those of you who know me know that im the same way in person. i back down from no one. never have never will. im either gonna get my point across or die tryin’. them is the facts, homie. now whos joining me for chulent tonight????
March 9th, 2006 at 3:06 pm
This is a vitally important song for everyone. Dixie is a song for all Survivors. Remember that no matter what someone says or does, that you know the truth, and the truth will set you free. The song is long, but well worth listening to: ...
March 9th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Listen Elya, tzatzkle, you said, “after today i have proof positive of that”
These are the words that have gotten everyone one of Merdchas shick yinglach in trouble.
And what do you think of my chiddish upstaging the great Insider lgabi the address? Gevaldik!
March 9th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
Elya, you foul-mouthed idiot. The office building on 28th and Park is 360 Park Avenue SOUTH. So don’t shoot your mouth off so quickly. Sheez. Just go onto maps.yahoo.com and type in the address and see what happens. Not so difficult.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:19 pm
well you guys did rip dubinsky on here and i find it hard to believe that if he heard a tape of his ex banging the anal ainekel than he would still daven in his shul. so for me it is proof positive that some posters on here are full of shit. i guess maybe its the wrong choice of words….but hey im not known for being subtle. i mamish chaped hispaylis from your posts. boruch hashem we at least have a few yungerleit on here that understand das torah. ich ken zein uz…..efsher i hold we need to get the oilam together for some divrei musser. maybe a shmooze…maybe a chaboora…who the fuck knows? but lets chap arein, rabbosai! its almost elul zman…..ummm not almost….but hey its never too early (or late) for musser. worse come to worse ill pull out my old “reb yisroel salanter guide to mussar and teshuvah” and give you guys an earful!
March 9th, 2006 at 3:20 pm
hey asshole! heres betting adina doesnt live in 360 park. wanna bet? i didnt think so. now quit being a know it all and go back to downloading yiddish erotics off the internet, jewby
March 9th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
Rav Shvei,
Since you worked in the building, you must know Adina pretty well. That leaves me thinking…..
March 9th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
Nice way to deflect attention from your error, Elya. 360 Park is at 50th Street. And it makes no difference whether Adina lives there or not. I also doubt it very strongly that she lives there. But the point is that you shot off your mouth too quickly. And if you want to fight, bring it, bitch. I’ll bet I could kick your ass.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Elya Shvei writes:
“insider…..do your homework…she lives in 360 park? thats an office bldg on 28th and park”
Anonymousless writes:
“Elya, you foul-mouthed idiot. The office building on 28th and Park is 360 Park Avenue SOUTH.”
I have confirmed that Adina’s signed affidavit says that she lives at 360 Park Avenue, which is at Park Avenue and 52nd Street, 2 blocks north of the Waldorf Astoria hotel, and within a very small radius of some of the most expensive upscale stores and restaurants in NYC. I restate my claim that this is one of the most expensive places on Earth to live. Whether Adina actually lives there, I have no idea. However, lying in a signed court document is never a good idea.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:36 pm
KNHMember1, had a chance to backtrack and read your posts (slow day today). I take issue with your attempt to discredit Perry D, so here we go:
“you are the one who talked publically against the mother of your five children” let me tell you….if my wife tried to insinuate that i abused my kids than talking about her would be the least of her problems. id break her fucking neck. so if he talked trash about her and didnt beat her ass, than praise the lord, hes a saint.
“You are the one who played tapes to your friends ….” Yup he played the tapes and everyone who heard them agreed that they were pointless. they contained nothing incriminating.
“You are the one who exposes your children to the very person who seduced your ex-wife” She lied about him abusing his kids (that was proven in court, she lost custody, rare for a woman) why wouldnt she lie about fucking mordy? Plus, the alleged tapes you all yack about contained nothing important. Anyone who actually heard them can probably attest to that.
“Dont pull the wool over our eyes! Now you have an opportunity to do true Teshuvah and condemn publically this pervert!” go back to my comment on the tape comment.
Overall, do I think harav horny is a guilty here? My OPINION is yes. But why slaughter some poor soul for nothing? Now you know why I asked how he was involved here. You guys bit hook line and sinker with your conjecture and non sensical bullshit. Oh and if you can PROVE otherwise and that I am wrong here, please do so. my email address is listed here.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
kick my ass? do u know me, faggot? why dont u bring your cocksucking jew ass over here so i can show you how i get down? u wont cause your a pussy just like the rest of the fags that post on here. thats why i can get away with wiping the floor with kikes like you. cause i know youre too soft to do anything about it. LMAO…..so as far as bringing it? its already been brought, nigga.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
You are all just plain dyotin. I’ll spell it out for faigeles with too much Dylan coming through your ipods.
The dumb address that dumb insider cares about is the dumb address of dumb Adina’s dumb lawyer.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:45 pm
Not living in Monsey and not knowing any of the people involved I have no dog in this fight, other than my simultaneous revulsion at what significant parts of orthodoxy have become and my sick fascination for a really juicy sex scandal.
Which, I think, is symptomatic of the scandal itself. A failure to exert free will. I can’t control my own urges, so I can’t really stand in judgement of the Tendlers and the women they attract and apparently predate as well because when I stand before God I’ll have plenty of my own shit to account for. Though I can’t judge them, it seems to me that halacha is halacha. We live in an age where nobody takes personal responsibility and much of this case is troubling, besides just the misbehavior. There is a current of feminist victimology that tries to shout down anyone expressing very real concerns that Tendler’s actions weren’t the only misdeeds.
Just because some feminists convinced state legislators that clergy have special powers over women and just because some psychologist says such a relationship can never be consensual doesn’t take away free will. Purim is approaching and we continue to discuss the halachic problems related to adultery arising from Esther’s relations with Ahasveirosh.
Adultery is a serious thing.
Of the hundreds of mitzvot, God says that we can break 610 but that three must be safeguarded to the point of death. Saying that these women violated a major precept of Judaism should be obvious. Those who accuse others of “blaming the victims” are embracing the values of Desperate Housewives, not Torah.
Like I said, I have no personal stake in this scandal, and please spare the boilerplate about pastoral sex is never consensual. If this was a female Conservative or Reform rabbi who was shtupping the husband of the Sisterhood president none of the folks here now defending the women would call that husband a victim.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:46 pm
Gimme your address, Elya, and I’ll be at your front door at 9:30 p.m. tonight. And when you’re choking on my right fist and struggling to get my left steel-booted foot out of your ass, you can type up a post about who’s a faggot. Hysterical little bitch.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
I thought Esther banged Mordy, not Achashveirosh?
March 9th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
Kish Mich writes:
“The dumb address that dumb insider cares about is the dumb address of dumb Adina’s dumb lawyer.”
Adina’s lawyer’s office address is:
350 Broadway
New York, New York 10013
...
According to the NYC phone book, Adina’s lawyer’s home address is on W 62nd Street.
Nice try. Adina is either filthy rich, or a filthy lair who filed misinformation in her court filings - unless someone can come up with a more reasonable explanation.
March 9th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
By the way Bozerebbe, you just said the exact same thing as Anonymous 12:54, without the nivolus, which I like better.
March 9th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
If the sex is consensual then what is the reason that a psychologist cannot have a sexual relationship with a patient? If a psychologist did that, he/she would be thrown out of the APA and have their license revoked. Don’t you think that the APA thought of personal responsibility?
When you go to someone for counseling, or if he is the (so called) dayan in your court case, there is a power imbalance. Does that mean that the victim has no responsibility? perhaps not-but it certainly is not sex between two equals.
And why attack the victims? for what end?
March 9th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
Prophet reader, you are a liberal phony. Go back down to your basement behind the washer and dryer where you wack yourself off to the stack of Playgirl magazines you hide from your wife and kids. They aren’t victims. They are as guilty as Merdche.
March 9th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
I’m not attacking anyone. Just stating the obvious. The women used very poor judgement when confronted with a troubling choice.
If none of them cooperated, or had gone public before there was a scandal, they might have some nobility. But in your zeal to embrace feminist victimology you want to ignore the fact that they willfully commited adultery.
March 9th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
Anonymousless …..email me, ill give u my address faggot. oh and btw anyone who knows me knows about my gun collection. so i wont be doing anything with my fist. the minute u come down my driveway im cappin ya ass. thats a promise cunt
March 9th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
Wait. I take it back. Don’t come to my house. I ran out of ammunition when I was hunting with Dick Cheney. I’m shooting nothing but blanks now.
March 9th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
Reb Elya
Zolst mir zein gezint, ober ich hub gehert dem tape fun “peri’s veib”!
Oib dan veib volt gehert dich reden ozoi mit a fremda yiddena, bin ich zicher az dee volst gedarft shlufen in Holiday Inn.
Der mamzer vos heist Mordcha bet zich berachmim az er vill kimen ze ir in der heim …. zee zugt em, vus vet Michelle zugen vegen dem …
zugt er, zee veist fin gurnisht … Nuch dem zugt er ir … in dee zeit vos mir reden volt men shoin kekent machen dee “zach”
Freg ich dir mein Reb Elya … Dus iz gurnish?
Velcher mentch ret azoi??? Ich bin nish kein Zaddik….
Uber az ich volt azoi geret mit a yiddena, volt mein veib orois gevoven fin mein hoiz… Al achas kama vekama a mentch vus rift zich a Rav!
Men miz puter veren fin Em!
March 9th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
To Steven Weiss
Why have you allowed the quality of this blog to have become polluted ever since Elye has graced us with his presence.
I t has become a filthy raunchy outlet for this immature moron’s fantasies.
Please try to bring back some civility to this site.
March 9th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
I don’t quite understand why the decorum on this block has eroded so badly. Anonymous though we are, most of us are neighbors and probably many of us are friends. We may disagree as to how to handle the situation in NH and end the insanity, but we should treat each other with respect.
It’s OK to vent, but the vulgarity and personal attacks don’t help.
The situation itself is unseemly; we don’t have to add to it.
March 9th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
Mein Tirah, Holy Shrink….ich hub gehert nisht azoi….ich hub gehert mamish fon de mentch uz der hailigah reb mudcheh hut nisht get reht azoi miten de frau. vuz ken mir tun?….du rehts azoi un de mentch zug fakehrt! zug mir de emes…..du hust gehert de tapes, mamish? iz yuh, yuh…iz nisht nisht….uber ich vil de emes. a groisah yosherkoiach. du bist a chushiva ben torah, boruch hashem
March 9th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
Ploni….its called freedom of speech. u may be able to play censor in your krum kleina velt but in the REAL world people can say what they want to say. Like ive said previously, if you dont like the posts, dont read them. you are on this blog for loshon horah purposes only so quit playing tzaddik. you are a phony of the worst kind and id love to meet you in a dark shteeble. see, its bullshitters like you that i grew up despising and ultimately exposing. its my mission in life to seek and destroy phony kikes like you. watch your back cause im out there and im angry
March 9th, 2006 at 5:24 pm
reb elya, speaking of your namesake, do you know if the Philly yeshiva or any of its daughter institutions like South Bend have had any problems with either inappropriate behavior or inappropriate financial activity? My son went to South Bend and though R. Gettinger (the Rav) can be a prick sometimes and he does live in a very nice house (and his brother the Rosh Yeshiva is a very sweet man), they seem to run a tight ship there and have a very good secular studies program. I was at a wedding once and one of the bochrim/crashers who took a seat at our table mentioned with incredulity that you can get expelled from Philly for cheating on an English test. I wondered what the Kotzker would have said about this kid’s attitude.
March 9th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
To KNhmember1: I was the guy with the Post article pinned to me…………And boy was I slammed! Still, that is because the KNH Ten are much more decent and respectful of their adversary than he is of them
March 9th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
Insider, what excuses will you have in hell when all you have is satins’ blogs to talk too? How will explain why you live in hell? And why you are a communist? Falsely policing victims?
March 9th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
Okay, Elya. If you’re that scared, I won’t come to your house. You can play with your gun all by yourself.
And by the way - the yiddish isn’t hiding anything. Shrink says he heard the tape of a conversation in which RMT propositioned Esty Dubinsky. He tells her he wants sex. She says, “What will your wife say?” He says, “She doesn’t know anything.” And later, he says, “In the time it took for us to have this phone conversation, we could have done it already.”
Sounds pretty damning to me.
Elya responded with a request for Shrink to verify that this was indeed the content of the tape. “Please tell the truth,” Elya said.
Not everyone on this thread is an ignorant, rabbi-ass-kissing BT.
Ich red yidish azoi vi an amerikaner, ober ich farshtay zeher git.
March 9th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
I knew youd pussy out, jerkoff. I said that I heard from the man himself to the contrary that the tapes did not contain the exchange that he refered to and that I wanted to know if the Holy Shrink did indeed hear that himself? Oh and if you cant translate the yiddish correctly dont bother attempting it. it makes u out to be an even bigger dickhead than you already are
March 9th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Reb Elya Shvei;
Did you ever learn words that exceed 4 letters?
Why don’t you go back to Crown Heights and suck your Rebbies Cock like you used to when you were a little boy.
Before someone cuts off your head and shits down your neck.
Love Kehilas Newhempstead
March 9th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
wow NH…you are soooo witty. gee you dont know shit about me….i actually came from seagate NOT ch. how about that? but since u know who i am why dont u be the one to cut my head off…..im right on union road, u know, right? im gonna get u NH…its only a matter of time and when i do we wont be blogging about tendler…it will be about you and how you cheat on your wife with other married women in this community. think i cant destroy someone???? check some of my blogs…..since u know so much about me it cant be that hard to find them. its going to happen. believe that fucker
March 9th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Elya go to your whores darling
March 10th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
WITH ALL RESPECT DUE TO THIS BLOG KEEPER
I BELIEVE THAT THIS BLOG WAS THE BEST VEHICLE USED TO TAKE
ON THE TENDLER LIE MACHINE
THANK YOU STEVE WEISS FOR MAKING IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE DOWN
AN EVIL MAN
March 10th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
As Long as we’re on the topic I think it’s amazing that no one points out that Adina’s lawyer, who has taken upon herself the task of defending female victims that were preyed upon by people in power, is seen here posing with Bill Clinton. Does anyone here remember Monica Whatszherface? Click here to see
March 10th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
Bozoer Rebbe Shlita,
Thank you for making meaningful contribtutions to this blog without profanity.
Reb Elya please try to raise the level of this dicussion above that of bar room tirade. I have spoken to the Rabbanim and those that heard the tape describe Mordche clearly trying to seduce a married woman.
From what I’ve read here it’s possible that this is a medical condition resulting possibly from an overdose of Viagra. If he gets fired he can probably get a job as a Viagra spokesman. Picture a commercial with his two twin cousins……
Four out of five einechlach………
Just in time for the 20th Yahrzeit too. Hashem Yerachem.
March 10th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
SSSSSHHHHHHH…..whats that i hear???? oh its only reb moishe rolling over in his grave….at ease soldier
March 10th, 2006 at 5:18 pm
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE RABBI TENDLER IN THERAPY AND OUT OF THE SHUL BY PESACH.
I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S POSSIBLE.
WE ARE GOING TO NEED THE HELP OF EVERYBODY HERE, IT’S UP TO US NOW, TO BE A LITTLE BRAVER AND A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT
IN INSISTING NICELY BUT FIRMLY THAT HE LEAVE.
I WOULD URGE ALL PEOPLE WHO HOLD KNH MEMBERSHIP TO VOTE
ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN KNH FOR THE EXPRESS REASON OF VOTING.
MAYBE KNH CAN TEMPORARILY LOWER THE COST OF MEMBERSHIP
AND I WILL RECRUIT 5 - 10 PEOPLE JUST TO VOTE OR WHATEVER THE BOARD NEEDS US TO DO
IF YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA PLEASE POST IT HERE!!!!
LETS ACT LIKE A COMM-UNITY
March 11th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
By Popular Request, I am re-publishing my poem:
The Rabbi and the Ladies
The Rabbi liked the ladies,
the Ladies liked the rav;
he gave them lots of aitzes,
and spoke to them of love.
The ladies of New Hempstead
they wiggled and they danced
each knew that SHE was special
inside the Rabbi’s pants.
He told one that he loved her
would cherish her for life
as soon as he could figure
out how to dump his wife.
The rebbetzin was angry
she threw her pots and pans
the rabbi laughed and told her
“You know I am DA MAN.”
But one of them was crazy
and chased him day and night
She never let the rabbi
Vanish from her sight.
She stalked him at his office
She stalked him at his home
She stalked him for his kisses
She stalked him for his bone.
“You said you’d always love me,
That you’d cherish me and more
But now I see you lied to me
You went from door to door!”
Then someone wrote a letter
She sent it all around
She said that Rabbi you know who
threw me on the ground.
Soon the world of Torah
Was glowing with delight
The Rav was in a scandal
The Rav said he would fight.
The Heilige Raboonim
They met and stroked their beards
“This rav can’t keep his pants on.”
They tossed him on his ears.
The Rav said, “You can’t do that,
We have to litigate
across the sea in Israel
Let’s go, I cannot wait.”
The heileige raboonim
they had a different plan
“Let’s try this rav in Monsey
Then throw him in the can.”
“Monsey is so scary,
The Beis Din there is nuts
Three illiterate Chasidim
A shoita, shmuck and putz.
“surely they will hang me
and leave me there to dry
while all my lovely ladies
Sit around and cry”
Now the shul sits empty
its coffers very low
a golem in the corner
and in the back, a ho.
The story is not over
Its really quite a mess
But this poem’s getting silly
So here, I think I’ll rest.
The Rabbi and the Ladies
The Rabbi liked the ladies,
the Ladies liked the rav;
he gave them lots of aitzes,
and spoke to them of love.
The ladies of New Hempstead
they wiggled and they danced
each knew that SHE was special
inside the Rabbi’s pants.
He told one that he loved her
would cherish her for life
as soon as he could figure
out how to dump his wife.
The rebbetzin was angry
she threw her pots and pans
the rabbi laughed and told her
“You know I am DA MAN.”
But one of them was crazy
and chased him day and night
She never let the rabbi
Vanish from her sight.
She stalked him at his office
She stalked him at his home
She stalked him for his kisses
She stalked him for his bone.
“You said you’d always love me,
That you’d cherish me and more
But now I see you lied to me
You went from door to door!”
Then someone wrote a letter
She sent it all around
She said that Rabbi you know who
threw me on the ground.
Soon the world of Torah
Was glowing with delight
The Rav was in a scandal
The Rav said he would fight.
The Heilige Raboonim
They met and stroked their beards
“This rav can’t keep his pants on.”
They tossed him on his ears.
The Rav said, “You can’t do that,
We have to litigate
across the sea in Israel
Let’s go, I cannot wait.”
The heileige raboonim
they had a different plan
“Let’s try this rav in Monsey
Then throw him in the can.”
“Monsey is so scary,
The Beis Din there is nuts
Three illiterate Chasidim
A shoita, shmuck and putz.
“surely they will hang me
and leave me there to dry
while all my lovely ladies
Sit around and cry”
Now the shul sits empty
its coffers very low
a golem in the corner
and in the back, a ho.
The story is not over
Its really quite a mess
But this poem’s getting silly
So here, I think I’ll rest.
The Rabbi and the Ladies
The Rabbi liked the ladies,
the Ladies liked the rav;
he gave them lots of aitzes,
and spoke to them of love.
The ladies of New Hempstead
they wiggled and they danced
each knew that SHE was special
inside the Rabbi’s pants.
He told one that he loved her
would cherish her for life
as soon as he could figure
out how to dump his wife.
The rebbetzin was angry
she threw her pots and pans
the rabbi laughed and told her
“You know I am DA MAN.”
But one of them was crazy
and chased him day and night
She never let the rabbi
Vanish from her sight.
She stalked him at his office
She stalked him at his home
She stalked him for his kisses
She stalked him for his bone.
“You said you’d always love me,
That you’d cherish me and more
But now I see you lied to me
You went from door to door!”
Then someone wrote a letter
She sent it all around
She said that Rabbi you know who
threw me on the ground.
Soon the world of Torah
Was glowing with delight
The Rav was in a scandal
The Rav said he would fight.
The Heilige Raboonim
They met and stroked their beards
“This rav can’t keep his pants on.”
They tossed him on his ears.
The Rav said, “You can’t do that,
We have to litigate
across the sea in Israel
Let’s go, I cannot wait.”
The heileige raboonim
they had a different plan
“Let’s try this rav in Monsey
Then throw him in the can.”
“Monsey is so scary,
The Beis Din there is nuts
Three illiterate Chasidim
A shoita, shmuck and putz.
“surely they will hang me
and leave me there to dry
while all my lovely ladies
Sit around and cry”
Now the shul sits empty
its coffers very low
a golem in the corner
and in the back, a ho.
The story is not over
Its really quite a mess
But this poem’s getting silly
So here, I think I’ll rest.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
oops, it printed twice, not sure why.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
So, how did the 8:15 “Haskoma” minyan go? I hear that there was a large crowd and barely a minyan at the 9:00 service
March 11th, 2006 at 8:05 pm
The 8:15 had 0ver 40 people and a nice hot kiddush …
they could have used some more chulent …
Dr. Lasky spoke … and Dan Schwarts was the chazzen for mussef ..
Tendler asked a kid to run downstairs to close the door ….
it was disturbing the Tendler Minyan upstairs which had 14 people including bar-Mitzvah Boys!
Benny Esquenazi came downstairs to see who was there..
Teichman sent one of his children down for kiddush to spy …. and hear what people were talking about!
March 11th, 2006 at 8:19 pm
The Holy Shrink Says….
Those are the facts as far as I know too-
seems reasonable that next week the coolaid minyan should meet downstairs (if at all) with the suspended Rabbi (so-called) and the main minyan with the real board (shlomo P etc) upstairs!
Isn’t that a no-brainer?
March 11th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Excuse me fellows, I have to finish something thing with Elye
Reb Elye Shlita
ir zolt mir moichel zein …. uber ich hub gehert dem tape …..
in men ken heren zair klur …. vee Mordcha bet de froi … az er vill ariber kimen ze ir hoiz .. ir geben a kish, in a Hug! zim soif tape bet er ir, zee kumen mit ir in bet … zee fragt ehm,”hust de gezugt bet?” lacht er in zugt ya ich hub gezugt bet!
March 11th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Better yet, get a restraining order against rasha Tendler I and padlock the main sanctuary and kick his koolaid followers out.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
I have a serious question and need advice. I was at an auf ruf this morning and a friend of mine came in during the drasha. I told him about some of the scandals and then said that stuff goes on because people let it go on. Then I said, without mentioning a name, “Like some rich single middle age guy who moves to town, starts buying kids expensive toys, bikes, hangs out a lot with teenage boys, takes teenage boys on overnight trips to amusement park on his boat, gets married to an out of town woman with two boys who abruptly divorces him shortly thereafter….lots of red flags.”
And my friend said, “well, we’ve known that for eight years”.
No concrete proof. Just some real questionable behavior. What do you do besides tell your kids not to hang out with him?
March 11th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
We know how our self-appointed leaders and educators cover up misdeeds, theirs and others’.
It takes a long time for things to see the light of day, but (to mix a metaphor) the dam seems to have broken. We’ve had scandals of rabbis acting sexually with female congregants. Other more heinous things like pedophile rebbes in the yeshivas.
But why no lesbian scandals from the girls’ schools? Remember, as closed off to the parents as some yeshivas can be, the girls’ schools deliberately discourage half of the parents from even being involved. We all know that there’s some homosexual activity in yeshivas, both between the students and between faculty and students. Does not the same thing happen at girls’ schools?
The Sisterhood is powerful.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
>jewishwhistleblower Says:
>March 11th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
>Better yet, get a restraining order against rasha Tendler I and padlock >the main sanctuary and kick his koolaid followers out.
Does it not occur to you, you self righteously indignant prick that some of those “koolaid followers” are our friends? Does it not occur to you that those of us who have determined that R. Tendler can no longer be the rabbi at KNH and are doing what no one else, you included, had the courage or ability to do (namely take those steps necessary to remove him from his position, want to maintain those friendships? My children go to school with those “koolaid follower’s” children. They are friends. Does it no occur to you that the community has to continue into the future and the less strife generated the better? Or are you so blinded by your psychotic like hatred that you fail to comprehend the meaning of anything i’ve said? If you don’t, then you’re as a big a rasha as he whom you disparage with such gusto.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:12 pm
Sheila Hirschorn is feeding Tendler info on his opponents …
She told him about the Tape that she heard (she doesnt see anything wrong with a Rabbi having sex with any of his congregents…. she said at that meeting that Tendler was a man ,…. implying that thats what men do)
she told him where she heard the tape and all the people that were there!
Dr. yaakov Tendler promptly called people who attended that meeting screaming like a lunatic, that it was “Loshen Hara” !
Excuse me Yaakov!
Your Holy Brother doing women, thats ok???
March 11th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
Steven, was my last post inappropriate? It’s marked as awaiting moderation and a couple of items posted since then have gone up.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
Reb Elya, you ever get out to the midwest?
March 11th, 2006 at 10:28 pm
>Does it not occur to you, you self righteously indignant
>prick that some of those “koolaid followers� are our
>friends?
Of course they are your friends and as soon as rasha Tendler I gives them the word they’ll twist the knife he puts in your back. Friends indeed.
>Does it not occur to you that those of us who have
>determined that R. Tendler can no longer be the
>rabbi at KNH and are doing what no one else, you
>included, had the courage or ability to do (namely
>take those steps necessary to remove him from his
>position,
What have you done? A suspension that lasted 9 minutes?
>want to maintain those friendships?
So that’s what’s important? Not removing a sexual predator, simply maintaing friendships with people who would smear and destroy your families in an instant at the word of their koolaid leader?
>My children go to school with those “koolaid follower’s�
>children. They are friends.
You better get professional counselling for your children. They may never recover from what you are continuing to expose them to.
>Does it no occur to you that the community has
>to continue into the future and the less strife
>generated the better?
Are you nuts? Your community if it can’t remove a sexual predator should not exist. KNH should be removed from the face of the earth.
Remember Migdal Bavel?
>Or are you so blinded by your psychotic
>like hatred that you fail to comprehend
>the meaning of anything i’ve said?
Nothing you’ve said is even rational.
>If you don’t, then you’re as a big a rasha as
>he whom you disparage with such gusto.
Again you show your absurd worldview. You go to a synagogue with your family run by a sexual predator and expose your children to him and his koolaid followers. I do not.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Holy Shrink….ich bet dir mechila. ich hub gehart heint by nacht uz vus du reht is mamish de emes. de emesa shailah iz vus vet zein, takeh? de hailagah reb mudcha iz mamish a prustak un a groisah ligner. In english, I have to ask from you mechila. I actually heard from someone tonight that what you say is 100% accurate. the real question is whats going to be? its obvious masturbatin’ mordy is an immoral liar. so why all the hemming and hawing? throw his ass out! another shabbos goes by and u balless jerkoffs do anything except kvetch on this bulletin board. think they’ll some action by rosh hashanah? probably not.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:49 pm
JWB, you exhibit all of the signs of an ideologue with a cause. You’re going to get rid of all of those sexual predators no matter how many people get hurt. It’s for the children! It’s for the poor female victims of these lecherous rabbis.
Real people have real relationships.
I went to a public high school and a local jewish college after k-9 at a day school. One of my classmates at both schools was the daughter of a fairly left wing Conservative rabbi. She was a real sweetheart but her dad was, well, let me just say that you could not come up with a satire of a pulpit rabbi that could be more self absorbed and impressed with his own words. The guy liked to wear his tallis kinda off one shoulder just to be different.
Right after I graduated from high school her dad commited suicide. He was found dead in a motel room. Apparently he’d been having a long standing affair with an employee of the synagogue and his wife, a shrew in her own right, threatened to divorce him and reveal the affair.
Last time I was in that synagogue for some kind of family simcha, I think, I noticed that a room was named after the rabbi. Considering what Judaism teaches about sexual misconduct and divorce, that’s hardly appropriate.
But I knew his daughter.
Within weeks of the funeral she and I were on the same summer program in Israel. And she seemed to have dealt with it remarkably well. Like I said, a real sweetheart.
So maybe she was happy he was dead. If I thought he was a prick, imagine what his family must have thought.
But I knew his daughter.
So yes, these scandals are terrible. They engross us because they appeal to both our yetzer hara and our self of righteous indignation.
They give us a chance to draw a line in the stand. Show how moral we are.
I’m not going to sit next to some whore in shul.
But I knew his daughter.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:50 pm
the latest news is that Mordy is finally admitting that the tape did not disappear …..
What this liar is now claiming is… that the tape now circulating is a forgery!
He claims that the tape is doctored !
Well, Mordy, we have other tapes … how about 75
Are they all forgeries?
According to MT everybody is a liar ….
only he is the truthfull one!
March 11th, 2006 at 10:53 pm
sorry, i typed “divorce” and meant
suicide
March 11th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
As I said before, the appropriate place to present evidence is in the civil courts NOT in any other forum.
Clearly, KNH members are not prepared to remove their koolaid rasha regardless of evidence. They did nothing but smear victims and their supporters AND now they want US to dirty OUR hands to clean up THEIR mess?
No teshuvah, no assistance. Do not help them in any way, not one dollar.
May KNH rot and may their white shirts be covered with their own filth.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
JWB, you are sick…
Sicker than anybody you’ve been offending.
You need as much help as M Tendler… perhaps more help.
Either way, neither of you accept that there’s anything wrong with you… so you are equal in my eyes.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
JWB, you say that the place to present evidence is in a civil court, but it appears that you don’t have a problem with evidence on blogs.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
New Hempstead News offers Tendler a fair challenge …
I think any pro tendlereits should present him with this fair proposal so that we can all go on with our lives
see ...
March 11th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
KNHMember, that’s a nice offer from New Hempstead News, however R Tendler will not accept any Beit Din that is staffed by anybody than people than he hand picks.
He says “beyond reproach”, but frankly Tendler needs to agree to that qualification, whether we like it or not.
It’s the same problem cycling right back around.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:18 pm
The KNH board send a written response to the Beit Din for their case against Rabbi Tendler. The board’s rabbinic lawyer is Rabbi Shmuel Fried - the same rabbinic Lawyer that represents the RCA in their case against Tendler. Interesting.
The KNH board has refused to have the case heard before Tendler’s chosen Beit Din. They have chosen zablah instead. The board’s borer (judge) is Rabbi Jekutiel Zalman Grauss. The KNH board has given Tendler until March 27th to present his judge.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
Rasha Tendler I will never waive confidentiality for previous legal counsel or the victim he paid off. He knows what he stands to lose. Further, that is why he is desperately trying to get the civil case thrown out.
I propse an alternative:
1) Get ALL the rabbonim of Monsey together and issue a public psak that rasha Tendler I is in cherem and all his supporters are in cherem. Put the so called dayanim from the Union of Orthodox Rabbis in cherem if they dare take steps against anyone on rasha Tendler I’s behalf.
2) Get a restraining order against rasha Tendler I. When he shows up at shul have him arrested on the spot.
3) KNH should issue a public apology to all of rasha Tender I’s survivors and their supporters and beg forgiveness.
4) Kick all of rasha Tendler I’s remaining supporters out of town, remove them from your institutions.
5) The early minyan should take back the main shul and padlock any other room koolaid Tendlerites could daven.
As to NHanonymous comments, I do not expose my family to a sexual predator, YOU do, every shabbos. You and yours are beyond sick, you are an obsenity.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:31 pm
NH OLD TIMER writes:
“I WOULD URGE ALL PEOPLE WHO HOLD KNH MEMBERSHIP TO VOTE
ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN KNH FOR THE EXPRESS REASON OF VOTING.”
I totally disagree with part of what you write. The KNH board cannot allow new members to join in order to vote. Tendler has some extremely rich relatives (Esformes) and supporters (JE). They have enough money to pay the membership dues for thousands of Esformes’s out-of-town pals in order to vote in favor of Tendler.
This is not a fight about who can find more money to enroll supporters. This is a fight about the heart of KNH and getting rid of a person who has no moral authority and must be removed from KNH.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
The 40 guys who davened downstairs and didn’t just daven in the shul upstairs are the biggest pussys walking the face of the earth. So what if MT shows up. Take his fuckin chair out of there and pretend he doesnt exist. He still has you all under his control and you are all afraid of him. Either make a decision that he has been suspended and take over the shul or leave the shul for the SICK FUCK RABBI or shut the FUCK UP and don’t bother him, us or your friends!!
March 11th, 2006 at 11:52 pm
OK. We know that Sheilah Hirschhorny is feeding Mordy information about who is who and who is who is not in the holy Kehilla of Nude Hempstead. But the real question is what is Mordy feeding Sheilah.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:54 pm
I have never seen any evidence of a sexual predator, only your rants of it. I have only seen a sharp torah scholar.
Ergo I have not exposed anybody to any sort of crimes, as you suggest.
Relax a little… it’s good for you.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:56 pm
We are pleased to announce the commencement of Nude Hempstead News, your source for mature entertainment here in the adult entertainment capital of Orthodox Jewry. Mixed seating is permitted in the rabbi’s office only.
March 12th, 2006 at 12:14 am
It is sad that things came to the point that the Holy Shabbat is now a time of strife, each side plotting and planning who will come out with a better plan. We are adults, isn’t it possible for KNH to approach tendler and his supporters and work something out like gentlemen? How much longer do we want to expose our children to all this machloket? Or are you saving your rotten eggs and tomatoes to give to your children to throw at tendler every time they say haman?
March 12th, 2006 at 12:20 am
Gut voch yiddin! Let me throw something out there which maybe you all realize but it doesn’t seem so. This one is calling that one a name. This name;less post names this person or that. Koolaid drinkers against Tendler haters. Supporters against anti.
This is the biggest mistake and the reason Merdche is still around. You have to realize that some people have more information then others. Some people think they know what they really don’t know. Some people are just plain full of it.
So one tactic Merdche relies on is getting everyone to fight among themselfs and not concentrate their fight on him. Dus is de emes and the ikir zach fun allis. Don’t think he doesn’t read this and put out information here as well. And if he doesn’t he knows about it and feeds the information through a hoize yingel.
If this whole blog would stop fighting among each other and concentrate on the shtupping shmekel, the heiliger humper, the yutz with the yichus (yoiu get the idea) stop fighting, shaming, and killing each other, Merdche would be gone.
March 12th, 2006 at 1:27 am
I think that anyone who davens in the shul (upstairs or downstairs) for the time being is making a grave mistake. Every time you walk into the shul, you are giving support tendler even if you don’t (horror) say good shabbas to him. There are people who will claim later that there were “over 50 people in shul on shabbas” and you have helped give him his shtella back.
You people are really showing signs of being cult members-you need to just quit the shul cold turkey. You will understand more when you are out. Trust me, I know that I did.
With reference to the zabla beit din nerishkeit-Tendler will only go into a beit din if it is stacked in his favor. You are just using the beit din as a red herring. Perhaps you feel that you are “busy” or “doing something” but you are simply wasting time. You are negotiating with a terrorist. You don’t like it when Israel does it-what makes you do it? Just change the locks on the shul and refuse to engage with him. Anything else makes you look foolish and plays right into his hands.
Someone posted a thank you to the blogmaster here for helping unseat rasha tendler. I think it is a bit premature and also misplaced. Although I am grateful to this blog and others for helping to expose him, the real person to thank is the women whom Tendler hit on, who had the guts to testify against him, and most of all to the “plaintiff” who you so gleefully attack and lambast. The woman are the only ones in this Purim story who have had any really courage… I propose making a “modern day Esther Day.”
March 12th, 2006 at 1:33 am
The divide and conquer tactic is well known. Tendler did it between me and my spouse and many others I know.
Taking him to a beit din is a joke. It is like trying Saddam Hussein in a real court. His entire career has been to make a mockery of the beit din under the guise of being a holy dayan.
I know of at least one case where he strong armed (no pun intended) a woman into signing on with his beit din while he was clearly taking bribes from her wealthy husband.
I know another case where a woman signed on with him and all of a sudden he disqualified the other dayanim who were supposed to sit on the beit din with him. “This one is too strict,” “this one is too old”-all of a sudden, it was a beit din of 1 person-and guess who he was?!
He does not deserve to even enter a “real” beit din-if there is such a thing.
Now who is this Zalman Grauss? Is he the former to-en from Boro Park?
March 12th, 2006 at 1:55 am
Is the NY Post doing any more stories on KNH? If so, does anyone know when they will come out?
March 12th, 2006 at 1:57 am
ok I checked-I was mistaken about Graus-the name of the to-en is Alexander Graus-different person.
March 12th, 2006 at 7:59 am
Prophet Reader: I propose making a “modern day Esther Day.�
Esther slept with Achashveros to save the Jews. Are you suggesting that your hero is a woman who slept with the rabbi in order to bring him down?
March 12th, 2006 at 8:02 am
i agree with prophet reader and dont call me frances. i was asked to come daven at KNH this shabbos. i said no problem but only if it was to boo rasha tendler and heckle him. i was told that no, it was to daven with the other minyan to show support for KNH but not for rasha tendler.
what a ridiculous idea!!! get some balls and heckle him and throw him out! he’s YOUR rabbi and you cant even do it?!?! i feel like vomiting.
March 12th, 2006 at 8:15 am
KNH men are a bunch of chicken shit pussies. They let the rabbi screw their wives, then they bow down to him and send him their money. When finally one of the women gets pissed because Mordy breaks his promise to marry her, a few men from outside the shul decide this is not proper for an Orthdodox rabbi who walks around with a funny hat and a long black kapote. So the outside men and a few of the scorned women make an issue. RCA takes action. Rabbi Wosner takes action. But the chicken shit pussies who daven at KNH are still scared to do anything. They keep waiting for someone else to do it for them. Finally, months and months later, the chicken shit pussy men cult members get real brave and have a separate minyan downstarirs. Oh my!
March 12th, 2006 at 8:27 am
Nude Hempstead doesn’t have facts just his view. This is the exact problem. This post is means nothing, adds nothing, does nothing. This post makes me miss the tzadik Reb elye.
Actually the outside men you refer to made a big mistake playing the most parve tape they have. Why they did this I have no idea, but I spoke to someone is Shul (not the one with the Morah Dass-Rah) on shabbos and they told me this tape will actuall help Mordche because it is so parve by todays day and age that it will get support for him. Once again a mistake by people thinking they are helping and it only hurts.
March 12th, 2006 at 8:46 am
My dearest Kish Mich:
Trust me on this one ….
the mild tape will not be played in front of a Bais Din, in the remote chance that Mordy actually actually shows up!
this is just a red herring waiting to see what he says about this one …
we were not disappointed … he is saying that it was doctored!
the other damaging tapes are the ones that will be played in front of any court or Bais Din!
March 12th, 2006 at 8:48 am
ANNOUNCEMENT FROM KNH:
On erev Purim, the Rabbi will be available for counselling sessions in his office. Women only. Please form a line from the office outside and down Brick Church Road to Hempstead Road.
The KNH Men will be sponsoring a bake sale. Come to KNH and buy your cupcakes, brownies, eclairs, and other scrumptious delicasies. All goods baked by the men of KNH. Proceeds of the men’s bake sale to go to the Rabbi’s defense fund.
March 12th, 2006 at 8:54 am
Kish Mich
The Anti-tendereites are sitting pretty with very very damaging evidence (not only DNA)
they are welcoming any Bais Din!
To say that in today’s day and age this is a mild tape is ridiculous,
no frum person wants to hear a rabbi preaching to them while knowing full well that he is soliciting a married woman …..
wait till you have to marry off your children and you have to tell them that you daven by a pervert
This mild tape is a slam dunk! If Tendler claims that it is doctored, with the technology we have today, this can be ascertained in matter of hours!
March 12th, 2006 at 8:58 am
Mrs. Yaakov Tendler bought all the New York Posts Sunday Edition of last Sunday, at 7-11 on route 59 and College …
March 12th, 2006 at 9:05 am
Tyire knhmember1, you know in ganzin, 100%, de minuvldik rav is not going to a bais din. He can’t go to any bais din because he’s guilty. You have to take this fight to the streets. Don’t waste time, Merdche alone has been m’akev the geulah biz a hindred yohr. If he can shlep the RCA a year he can shlep the naars and urls in New Hempstead 10 years. Merdche is asking for it. So release the real tapes. He is showing he won’t go until you mamish destroy him, his wife, every kid and every ainikl. They all have to hear him bashaas mayseh with these women. Nothing less. Anything less is a waste of time. aNything less he stays rav, period. You have to get with the times, myne freund. In the days of internet, only the worst qualifies as proof, nein?
March 12th, 2006 at 9:16 am
Holy shrink, I B’H am not worried for shidduchim for my children, and since you sound like a reasonable person, let me explain, its not what you think that counts. You know he is a minuvaldik. If you or i spoke the way he spoke on the tape our wifes would have us sleeping in the beis medrish floor. But in new hempstead, youhave to understand it is what these baalei tshuva think that counts. His whole kehila, not just the women, each one mamish a tam or a sh’aynoh yodeah lishol. So don’t fool yourslef about what you will do when he goes to a bais din. He won’t go if Hillel, Yankiv, and Moishe Duvid were the dayonim. Because he knows what he did, and he realizes now that the women taped him. They taped him not asking for sex, but having sex. If you play the bais din game, you are wasting your time.
March 12th, 2006 at 9:20 am
It was written on this blog that rabbi Tender is an “Am Haaretz”. That the KNH people are crazy for not seeing this, that only simple-minded Ba’alei Teshuva could make such a mistake. And so forth.
Who writes like this, shows a lack of understanding.
Rabbi Mordecai Tendler is very sharp, very brilliant. He may not be a standard scholar. He may not be able to cite by heart without error. But to say he is an “Am Haaretz” is very far from the truth.
Rabbi Mordecai Tendler breaths the Neshama of Reb Moshe, greatness with a deep source. Moshiach - not a few are laughing - I know he could indeed have been. Could have been. Great souls have deep struggles, real struggles. They are subject to strong forces, unique disease, gigantic temptation. They can fall. Korach fell. Yerovam ben N’vat fell. Menashe fell.
Be careful. You can fall also.
Rabbi Tendler should step down. Someone else will take the job. When he will step down, and he will, we should all step back, in awe, add his name to our Tefilot, and be silent.
March 12th, 2006 at 9:37 am
Let me just say this to the Hirshorns and others who say that whats on the tape is nothing wrong!
People don’t commit acts of great evil or great courage out of thin air. Charachter is developed out of a lifetime of choices. Almost every decision you make, however small, will be a step closer to G-D or a step closer the devil. When you are unkind to a clumsy shop clerk, you taking a step closer to the devil. When you snap at your mother or wife, you are taking a step closer to the devil.
When you go along with in crowd (the people who say that the Rabbi doing someone else’s wife is ok) and don’t speak out against liars, against promiscuity, against Rabbonim (moral leaders) speaking and doing things inappropriately, you are taking a step closer to the devil.
But it’s never too late to stop and begin taking steps toward G-D. It’s a lot easier to make that journey with compaions who know the way!
To kish mich, and Sheila Hirschorn … According to the only serious, long-term scientific study of the sexual behavior of Americans ever performed, 75% of married men and 85% of married woman have NEVER been unfaithful!
(John Gagnon,The Social Organization of Sexuality, Chicago: University
Press)
But you can be sure that in any town, the 20% of adulterers will know one another. Alcoholics hang around alcoholics, drug addicts hang around drug addicts, liars hang around liars. Vices of a feather flock together. This is a great tip for figuring out which of your friends are liars and cheats: They are the ones who seem to know a curiously large number of people who lie and cheat. But it’s also a warning to keep those friends at a distance!
Having said this, it’s time to get rid of Tendler!
March 12th, 2006 at 9:37 am
AnotherFormer Member
I truly hope you are being sarcastic in your post in a pre-Purim display of humour. If not, then you have a serious requirement to check in with reality. You are so far from true Torah hashkofo it isn’t even funny.
You are ascribing greatness to someone who should be publicly humiliated at every turn.
When he steps down we should all step back so as not to contact tumah from him.
March 12th, 2006 at 9:41 am
To Another Former
Tendler does not “breathe the neshamah of Reb Moshe,” to say this is a desecration of Reb Moshe’s memory !
Tendler has the neshoma of Korach!
March 12th, 2006 at 9:48 am
Holy shrink, you have a problem with what I said, maybe because you have a poor way of thinking ahead. My written english may not be perfect to say the least but I know what I am talking about. You don’t even seem to read well though. I don’t daven by de minuvaldik let alone accept anything he did. As I said if I spoke that way I would have a lot to answer for. But you are all talk. “Lets get rid of him” But I repeat myslef. You fight fire with fire. You wish that some moral argument would beat tendler. But it won’t. Sof kol sof, Thursday night the fight was not fire with fire, you fought fire with air. be a man, admit it, and get yourself together and start fighting fire with fire. Its not to late.
March 12th, 2006 at 9:57 am
Thanks JWB for supporting us and those others who supported us.
JWB is dead on!
March 12th, 2006 at 9:59 am
Chazal speak about the greatness of people like Korach, Yerovam ben N’vat. They used their greatness for evil, unique evil. That is what I refer to. That is what happened here.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:07 am
Another Former Member
Tendler is not great even in the negative sense.
He is a very small two faced hypocrite who has alot to answer for.
Wae up. You have been misdirected.
You need to be deprogrammed.
Your intentions are noble but you need true guidance. No disrespect intended but the Talmud comments as to how destructive the honest intentions of an Am Haaretz can be in the absence of true Torah knowledge.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:15 am
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING About REMOVING TENDLER
SUPPORT THE 8:15 SHABBOS MORNING MINYON
IT DETRACTS FROM HIS MINYON AND PUTS HIM ONE STEP CLOSER TO BEING REMOVED
DO SOMETHING!!!!!!
BE THERE 8:15 AM SHABBOS MORNING AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO OUST THIS RABBI!!!
HELP KNH REMOVE MORDECHAI TENDLER NOW!!!!
I WILL SEE YOU THERE SHABBOS 8:15
March 12th, 2006 at 10:22 am
On a different note, this page is getting too long for my browser. It hangs all the time, and I have to kill it. We need Open Thread VI.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:24 am
IF ANYONE HAS THE BALLS
WHEN NO ONE IS LOOKING EITHER HAUL HIS CHAIR AWAY
OR SMASH IT TO PIECES IN THE SHUL LEAVING A STATEMENT OF DISSATISFACTION.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:43 am
KNH Announcement:
The Rabbi will be offering group counselling sessions. Please call 425-4948 for appt. Women only. Please form a line outside the office.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:44 am
Speaking of people in Tanach, how about Eliyahu HaNavi who had to fight seemingly all klal yisroel over avodah zorah. He was alone on one side against the majority on the other side but we know who won, don’t we. RMT is not a gilgul of Eliyahu or the Mashiach, but the scenerio seems the same.
March 12th, 2006 at 11:00 am
To those who appear to be on the sidelines, know this- THERE ARE NO SIDELINES. Either you are working to fix the problem or are part of the problem. To those actionless pontificators, whether near or afar, get off this ride. If it’s not your fight, don’t fight it, or add your 2 cents because it’s not even worth 2 cents. Pontificators are, to me, nothing but paper tigers at best, cowards at worst, and usually mean spirited and poorly informed.
March 12th, 2006 at 11:27 am
Hey Savage Nation. You think Mordy is like Eliyahu ha Navi who fought for Hashem against Avoda Zorah? Yeah right. And I am Barbra Striesand.
March 12th, 2006 at 11:28 am
Be very very careful of Graus. He was my “toyen” when I went to bais din years back and fucked me royally. He is a money grubbing piece of shit and will turn on you for an extra buck. Im not just poppin off bull shit here. Im offering you a sincere warning, HE IS A SNAKE. after stringing me a long for six different trips to this alleged “bais din” and at $1200 a pop I finally told him in these words “go fuck yourself rabbi, i declare myself no longer frum so do what u need to do i dont give a fuck!” you know how i finally “settled” my case? i sent 2 of the nasty niggers to my adversarys home who told him that if he didnt back off and give me what i want, he was getting dealt with, ghetto style. Beis Din is a crock of shit and a low life like Graus means you are headed down the road to a royal fucking. nothing good will come out of this. you will waste time and LOTS of money. this isnt some second hand bullshit story like u read on here, THIS HAPPENED TO ME! proceed at your own risk, but you were warned. Good Luck
March 12th, 2006 at 11:43 am
To: Another Former Member who posted
March 12th, 2006 at 9:20 am
>Rabbi Mordecai Tendler is very sharp, very brilliant.
He is a master manipulator.
>Rabbi Mordecai Tendler breaths the Neshama of Reb Moshe,
If so then you are saying the neshama of Reb Mosha is corrupt.; or if as seemingly you like to put it in sympathetic terms, you are saying both their neshamas are damaged.
>greatness with a deep source.
You are a Kool aid member of the Nonsense Horseshit Hypocrites fan club.
>Moshiach - not a few are laughing –
Most are crying for his sell that he is Moshiach. That you still buy it and perpetuate it is sick and evil.
>I know he could indeed have been. Could have been.
He is a pathological liar.
>Great souls have deep struggles, real struggles.
He made people think he is great, that you are great. Nothing deep about him-just superficial sex predator.
The only true great people are those who stood up against his injustice and struggled with brainwashed enablers, thugs and the public relations Tendler team.
>They are subject to strong forces, unique disease, gigantic temptation.
Is he admitting to committing sexual abuse?
>They can fall. Korach fell. Yerovam ben N’vat fell. Menashe fell.
He is untied in Hell with them. This is your Rav. Mordecai Tendlers examples along with King Davids’ sins he claims exemption for crimes he committed stating he has the same neshama. Great role models!
>we should all step back, in awe, add his name to our Tefilot, and be silent.
Awe of him sexually abusing women; lying and using Torah, his congregants, and favors for the purpose of sexually abusing women.
Tefilot only for his victims and justice to prevail; Tefilot for you to align yourself to Hashem and have strength not to let your daughters and sons be slaughtered in your “silence� of Rabbi Mordcai Tendlers’ spilled semen.
March 12th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Any legal savvy comments re Steven Weiss fresh thread re the legal threats being instiuted by Hillel Tendler against the contents of this thread?
March 12th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
Why are there tapes?
What is their provenance? Why was the taping being done?
March 12th, 2006 at 12:38 pm
I’ll tell the self professed “victims” here and their advocates this: They will only be heroic and noble if they admit that they were wrong too.
I’m reminded of an earlier example of Jewish sexual misconduct. Yehuda and Tamar. If you recall, Yehuda admitted that she was more righteous than he.
Let the women who had sex with their rabbis admit that while they may have indeed been vulnerable and manipulated, they indeed did something wrong too.
One of my son’s friends is on probation. He got caught shoplifting with his girlfriend, not her first time. He was naive, he was impressionable, he was manipulated by a charismatic 21 year old girl with big tits. He was a victim, right?
March 12th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Three things:
1. Stop the vulgarity. It has turned a very useful blog that has served as an important forum into a disgusting bad joke- just stop it!
2. Mordechai Tendler a brilliant talmid chacham? It isn’t Purim yet, so calling drivel chidushim is not appropriate. And saying that there is any relationship between mordechai and Rav Moshe zt”l other than geneological borders on blasphemy! I am not joking- it is a denegration of one of the true gedolim!
3. Re the hillel tendler piece: all of the bullying by the tendlers (starting with moshe dovid) has been going on for decades too long! It alone would be reason to remove mordechai, even if he weren’t a liar, adulteror…
March 12th, 2006 at 12:45 pm
I think its time to stick up for the canonist and bombard The law office of Hillel (the bastard) Tendler, with letters and phone calls telling them that its free speech and we would all stop if Hillel’s brother “packs his bags” and gets the hell out of our community!
March 12th, 2006 at 12:48 pm
Actually, that is precisely what got Hillel Tendler fired from his last position at a major law firm in Baltimore when he pulled the same shtick –and that was in a relative’s divorce. The firm ethics committee did not take kindly to the matter at all.
As is usual with the Tendlers, he knows that no one in the orthodox community dares to call his bluff. Except last time someone did, and he got fired.
Try it.
Mordy Tendler cannot get 15 men to daven anymore.
Moshe Tendler cannot get 50 men on a shabbos morning anymore. Our shul has become a moshov zekeynim. He is 81 years old, and has been repeatedly warned by family, colleagues and YU that his judgment is deteriorating with age and that he has turned into a “bitter old man lashing out�. We are all old men now. In my firm we had mandatory retirement at 70, and we became of counsel and limited partners precisely to avoid what is happening to Moshe Tendler –he is throwing away a lifetime of achievement due to repeatedly awful judgments at an age when he should have long relinquished power and authority. But as the young people of New Hempstead are only just learning, Rabbonus is about nothing but raw power and wealth….it makes Wall Street look like Sunday School.
I have lived in Monsey longer than the members of New Hempstead have been alive. I really dont understand what they fear anymore. Moshe Tendler can’t threaten anyone with cherem anymore, because he knows that most of the rabbonim will not adhere to it, and that will cause his prestige far more loss than all of this — like Sadaam Hussein, he needs to threaten using a nuclear arsenal knowing he no longer possesses one….and like Hussein, he will roll over with amazing speed and ease if actually challenged
The Emperor really is wearing no clothes.
And in terms of a beis din to remove Mordy, has there ever been a beis din that removed an orthodox rabbi from his pulpit in a shul he founded? Did you check any case precedent? Thought so. There never has been. Never. Whether zabla or zabaldee or zabladoo, you have been snookered yet again. You will be forced to pay him a fortune to go away.
You should have taken the precedent from the RCA, who rightfully understood that they were going to a beis din no matter what, and that every beis din zabla ends up in some rediculous compromise, and therefore they might as well fire the philandering putz and go to beis din for firing him rather than have him hang around like he is in your shul and STILL have to go to beis din and pay him off.
Right now, boys, you lose on all counts. Didn;t anyone discuss this with you? You might as well just fire him if you have to go to beis din anyway and write him a mega check.
Really, don’t be so scared. The emperor really isn’t wearing any clothes. All it takes is one guy to say it out loud.
Hillel Tendler learned that lesson once already when he was fired due to an ethics complaint for exactly this kind of shtick, and from his own relative no less. But I guess that is the whole point — the guy wasn;t afraid or in awe of the Tendlers, and knew the emperor was naked.
And in terms of representing Mordy Tendler as any kind of godol or tzadik, well that is just sad, irrespective of his recent actions. We live in the armpit of golus, people, a point that might be lost on baalei teshuva in New Hempstead. In Israel, Mordy couldn’t even count on a serious position in a high school, and could never hope to pass the exam of the chief rabbinate for a pulpit position in a community…his Hebrew really is that awful, which makes these people looking up to him all the more tragic…..that is why all these American rabbonim have to create their own communities when they go over there…they really are not qualified for the Major Leagues, only down here in AA Baseball…..
most of the postings about him are simply sad, both those that worship him and those that fear him…..he is an absolute nothing in the Big Leagues of Rabbis, yet all here either worship him or fear him
The Emperor really is quite naked. And both of his sons were naked far too often.
March 12th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
I already e-mailed all Hillel Tendler’s co workers that we are not going away until his pervert brother leaves our community ..
time for everybody on this blog to do the right thing and protect our forum!
March 12th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to have the unmitigated balls to fire Tendler? Just do it already you pussies.
March 12th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Tendler truths-
Most of what you said was 100% on the money.
There is one aspect I wanted to comment on, and while i respect your experience knowledge and insight, one small he’arah:
>has there ever been a beis din that removed an orthodox rabbi from his pulpit in a shul he founded? Did you check any case precedent? Thought so. There never has been. Never.
That may be so but if you ask rabbanim who know they will tell you that this case is very unprecedented. To have a rabbi make adulteropus affairs part of the operation of his shul is not a run of the mill case! Part of the reason that it has taken so long to work through this is how unprecedented it is! (aside from the unceasing efforts of the tendlers to obstruct justice, the maffia- like family and their methods- yes i mean moshe dovid, aaron, mordechai, hillel and yaakov at the least etc etc etc)
That is not to say that I am claiming b”d is the answer. not a zabla- he has no right to one and it would not be the right thing.
I am just sharing an observation that may or may not change things…. We will have to see….
March 12th, 2006 at 3:59 pm
Tendler Truths: Thank you for stating something that I have been saying for years: “the emperor has no clothes.” It was so terrific to hear it from someone besides myself. When I lived in New Hempstead it was enough to tear my hair out. Perhaps because I was one of the only FFBs-I was able to see what the precious (and they really are precioius) BTs couldn’t-that the guy was a charlatan. Thank g-d I’ve been exposed to real rabbis, and I couldn’t believe how many people this joker had fooled. I’ll never forget when my ex told me that we couldn’t eat any matzohs besides Tendler’s-at first the halachic reasons sounded very logical (e.g. the heat of the ovens, etc.)-then I simply thought to myself, “ok, let me get this straight; the matzohs I have eaten for 30 years from Williamsburg are vadai chametz? And Tendler is the only one to have figured this out??? give me a break!
March 12th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
This is an international, world -class chillul hashem. It is terrible all around. There are no winners here. The question is, how can this situation be resolved? I believe this forum can be a helpful tool for ideas and suggestions.
March 12th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING About REMOVING TENDLER
SUPPORT THE 8:15 SHABBOS MORNING MINYON
IT DETRACTS FROM HIS MINYON AND PUTS HIM ONE STEP CLOSER TO BEING REMOVED
DO SOMETHING!!!!!!
BE THERE 8:15 AM SHABBOS MORNING AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO OUST THIS RABBI!!!
HELP KNH REMOVE MORDECHAI TENDLER NOW!!!!
I WILL SEE YOU THERE SHABBOS 8:15
March 12th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
To Monsey FFB:
Perhaps your question should be directed to MT directly-he is the one responsible for the chillul hashem.
That being said, I think that the best thing to do now is to “vote with your feet”, as I did, and not step into the shul until he leaves. Going there as a “protest vote” is simply ridiculous and keeps you engaged in some kind of relationship with him. It’s like a pathological dance-one of the partners has to stop dancing to put a stop to it-so let it be the congregants if Mordy is not going to do it.
March 12th, 2006 at 6:11 pm
NH Old Timers post is ridiculous. A bunch of cowards davening in the KNH basement while MT has the sanctuary doesn’t show him anything.
HOw does that help to oust MT? Would you please explain? Is it more effective than going to a different shul altogether?
March 12th, 2006 at 6:11 pm
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DONATE FOR THE TOEN “LAWYER”
WHO WILL ARGUE AGAINST MORDECHAI TENDLER
PLEASE CONTACT ME AT KILLTENDLER @ YAHOO . COM
THE SHUL NEEDS MONEY TO GOT TO BEIS DIN SO ALL OF YOU BIG TALKERS CAN REACH INTO YOUR POCKETBOOKS AND DO SOMTHING NOW.
AGAIN THIS IS FOR THE TOEN AGAINST TENDLER IF YOU ARE FOR TENDLER DO NOT CONTACT ME CONTACT A PHSYCHIATRIST
KILLTENDLER @ YAHOO . COM AND I WILL TELL YOU WHO TO BRING A CHECK TO.
March 12th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
REMEMBER THIS SHABBOS
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING About REMOVING TENDLER
SUPPORT THE 8:15 SHABBOS MORNING MINYON
IT DETRACTS FROM HIS MINYON AND PUTS HIM ONE STEP CLOSER TO BEING REMOVED
DO SOMETHING!!!!!!
TO DONATE TO THE COSTS OF THE BEIS DIN
EMAIL ME AT KILLTENDLER @ YAHOO . COM
BE THERE 8:15 AM SHABBOS MORNING AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO OUST THIS RABBI!!!
HELP KNH REMOVE MORDECHAI TENDLER NOW!!!!
I WILL SEE YOU THERE SHABBOS 8:15
March 12th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
and to dispell these young people’s bizarre perceptions of the rabbonim as anything more than regular men who are so very human — to be admired and respected for their ethics, morality, knowledge and professionalism as much as attorneys, doctors and other professionals, but not a drop more…
Reb Elya, I am old enough to remember that you played second base on the Torah Vodaas basseball team before growing that white beard, and that the Bostoner Rebbe hit cleanup and played third base…had good power for the long ball as well, popped one out of the short right field porch in old Yankee Stadium once…..try telling THAT to his chasidim today
Rabbonim are very respectable professionals but human beings like all of us, with too much ego,ooo and pride and poor judgment……once you place them on some perverse pedestal because of a bizarre need for hero worship you have dug your own ethical grave….we made fun of the chasidim all these generations, and then a bunch of our own rabbonim incorporated the chassidish cult aspects into their own pulpits for fame and fortune…..it is the lack of that generational perspective that makes the newly religious so vulnerable to this kind of fraud..the entire issue in New Hempstead is Mordy Tendler claiming to be a chassidish rov with his own kloyz rather than a normal modern shul, yet no one sees this basic point
just the rantings and ruminations of an old man…..this is not why we all founded Monsey for future generations……. people, reclaim your community synagogue — double entendre intended — it does not belong to some chassidishe rebbe
perhaps Canonist will open a section discussing the danger to the community of its modern day inability to gracefully retire Rabbonim like Moshe Tendler with honor before they lose their judgment and begin irreparably damaging the community….no other profession would even think of permitting this notion of holding power literally until death….if you trace the last few major crises in the frum velt, there is a consistent theme of rabbonim beyond mandatory retirement age turning bad situations into historic crises by adding fuel to the fire…this is a great taboo in the frum velt, but in Israel there is an accepted transition…they receive great kovod but are retired from power and authority, like Lau or Ovadya Yosef acting as Chief Rabbi Emeritus but handing over authority to much younger men….simply consider how much damage has occurred from coast to coast, how much chilul hashem in the press, how much controversy spread as far as jerusalem beis dins, how many lives and families have been literally destroyed, how many people turned away from yiddishkeit –simply because Moshe Tendler turned into a bitter old man grasping for every straw of raw power and wealth until the grave, solidifying it into the next generation with his sons, and was never graciously retired both here and in yeshiva
March 12th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
NH OLD TIMER writes:
> WHO WILL ARGUE AGAINST MORDECHAI TENDLER
> PLEASE CONTACT ME AT KILLTENDLER @ YAHOO . COM
I suggest that you change your email address. Canonist is already getting facing some legal hassles due to someone who implied that Tendler might be killed.
How about REMOVETENDLER instead?
March 12th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
NH OLD TIMER - who the F are you? I am gonna show up at the 8:15 minyan and pull your ass upstairs to DAVEN IN YOUR OWN SHUL. You sound like some f-ed up liberal Jew with post holocaust syndrome afraid maybe you will hurt poor mordys feelings.
March 12th, 2006 at 7:38 pm
It is clear from reading all this blog stuff how fed up the people of Am Yisroel are with their leadership. That being the case, a true leader will not arise from the Rabbinic clowns. Moshiach will be the product of a grass roots movement where we simple Jews overthrow the Rabbinic self serving clowns and annoint our own humble and brave king. But I am afraid things will have to get much worse (especially in Israel) before the need becomes clear enough for us to do so.
March 12th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Bozoer Rebbe (or is it BOZO Rebbe) you write “Let the women who had sex with their rabbis admit that while they may have indeed been vulnerable and manipulated, they indeed did something wrong too”
First of all you schmuck, these woman were sick and needed professional help. Thats why they went to MT for help. They dont have to apologize to you for shit. They were 100% victims, stupid as hell and sick as could be, but nonetheless victims. And what about the innocent children and husbands who had their worlds turned upside down — including MTs own children. Should they come forward too and apologize? After they were vulnerable and manipulated also. What did you smoke this morning. You think a rapist has to hear his victim apologize also for wearing a seductive dress. And then should all of America apologize for the amount of value we place on having a great sex life!? So when does it stop and we finally draw the line between who is suppose to know right from wrong? Man, I can’t take this shit. Shouldn’t a rabbi who is in a position of leadership the know the diffrenece? BOZO, only Tendler is wrong here. And I would like to hear an apology from you now for being so damn insensitive to the victims — you 12″ ba’al givah schmuck!
March 12th, 2006 at 8:04 pm
Monsey FFB Says:
March 12th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
This is an international, world -class chillul hashem. It is terrible all around. There are no winners here. The question is, how can this situation be resolved? I believe this forum can be a helpful tool for ideas and suggestions.
Hey FFB — the whole frum community is a world class chillul hashem. We let Arab terrorists blow up our children and then give them our land. We steal from the governments we pretend to support and we cheat on our wifes, go to whores, cheat in business, smoke dope and crack, hit our kids and jduge all jews who don’t keep the chumrahs of halacha as inferior. We are the most hypocritical humans on the face of the earth. This MT saga is a sympton not a cause. The cause is that halacha and TOIRAH learning have become an excuse to be a total asshole to the rest of society. Listen folks we need MOSHIACH NOW and as long as we think those glory days are coming by listening and trusting the GEDOILEH HADOR we are going nowhere. This saga is just further proof of that. Yeah go ahead and call me all types of names — swear at me like I am at you — I dont give a damn — it is the truth and the truth hurts and once we can look ourselves in the mirror and see how we sick we are as a people we can start to heal and heal the world. WHO IS WITH ME? Who is as pissed off as me? Lets bring moshiach from below — a grass roots movement — first of all - lets get rid of MT and then we will move on to the rest of the self serving Rabbonim in Monsey who never really cared about us. We need to love the simple folk, the victims. We need to Hate EISAV — the evil Rabbonim who don’t care about US.
March 12th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
After we run M. Tendler out of town. I suggest that we start on the other do nothing Rabbis who were complacent in this matter. Should keep us busy for years.
March 12th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
It’s important to separate Tendler from the other Rabbonim. Just because one is evil doesn’t mean everyone is. You are throwing the baby out with the bath water. We do need moshiach, especially those who use such nival peh on this blog, out of frustration and anger I am sure!!! I am wondering if this is such a world wide chillul Hashem if the Gedolei Hador have been asked a shailah about this. They certainly should be consulted, don’t you think?
March 12th, 2006 at 10:11 pm
“You think a rapist has to hear his victim apologize also for wearing a seductive dress.”
These women exercised free will. MT may be a predator, they were in control of their own behavior. I don’t believe that rabbis have svengali like powers over women. I also follow the advise of rabbis who say that when you have a pychological or marital problem to see a professional, not a rabbi.
” And then should all of America apologize for the amount of value we place on having a great sex life!? ”
Perhaps. But the key question is what is more important, the values of 21st century America which is influenced deeply by the therapeutic culture that prefers to see people as victims not free agents, or the values of Judaism that say that a woman who willingly has sex with one man while married to another must divorce her husband.
You can’t on one hand decry MT for his gross violations of halacha and then say that these women did nothing wrong.
Let me ask you a question. Let’s say that I need to borrow some money to avoid eviction and I go to a friend to borrow $1000. My friend says okay, but only if I give him a blow job. I need the money so I do it. Does that make me a victim? My friend was in a position of power.
“So when does it stop and we finally draw the line between who is suppose to know right from wrong? ”
This isn’t a grey area of Jewish law. Perhaps an argument can be made that these women were coerced, and some of them certainly were pressured, but the relationships were consensual. That creates a huge problem vis a vis halacha and adultery.
An adulterous woman must be divorced by her husband. I can understand why both the women involved and their husbands might want to avoid this. Also, the men have been publicly cuckolded. That creates a strong motivation for painting their wives as victims of a predator, not willing participants in sexual fun and games.
Of course, there’s a third posibility. I’ve done a lot of reading about cults. In many cults the husbands willingly let their wives have sex with the cult leader. Also, the phenomenon of wife sharing and wife watching is not unheard of. Maybe some of the KNH hubbys were getting off on this.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:13 pm
gedolei hador? what gedolei hador? isnt it evident from this whole sordid affrair that we are truly a d’or yossum? the day rav pam died was the day the last true godol graced this earth. we are a rudderless ship, stop putting mere mortals on pedastals they dont belong on. start making your own decisions.
March 12th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
IT IS A PHSYCHOLOGICAL PHENOMENA
WHEN A WOMEN COMPLAINS TO A 3RD PARTY ABOUT HER HUSBAND
(AS IN A MARRIAGE COUNSELING SCENARIO)
sHE WILL AUTOMATICLY GRAVITATE TOWARD THE ARBITRATOR.
AN AMORAL PERSON COULD EASILY SEIZE ON THAR EMOTION.
I BELIEVE TENDLER HAS DONE IT MANY TIMES IN VARIOUS SITUATIONS
ALWAYS SEEKING THE MOST UNSTABLE TO TRY AND PROTECT HIMSELF
TO DONATE TO THE BAIS DIN FUND TO REMOVE TENDLER
CONTACT ME AT BOOTTENDLER@ YAHOO . COM
I WILL TELL YOU WHO TO CONTACT FROM THERE.
ALSO THE 8:15 ANTI-TENDLER MINYON URGES YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT
March 12th, 2006 at 10:33 pm
IF WE COULD ONLY GET 100 PEOPLE AT THIS SHABBOS’S 8:15 MINYAN
I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A GREAT STATEMENT AS TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANT HIM OUT
COME ON ALL YOU GREAT JEWS !!!!
100 PEOPLE THIS COMMING SHABBOS KI SISA
BE THERE 8:15!!!
WHEN YOUR CHILDREN ASK WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET RID OF TENDLER,
YOU CAN TELL THEM I SUPPORTED THE 8:15 MINYAN WHEN HE WAS STILL THERE
March 12th, 2006 at 11:03 pm
DEAR HILLEL/YAAKOV TENDLER
YOUR BROTHER IS OUT.
YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE HE GETS THE BEST PHSYCHIATRIC CARE
WHEN HE REALIZES WHAT EVIL HE HAS DONE TO HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN AND HIS OTHER VICTIMS
HE WILL FALL TO PIECES, MENTAL BREAKDOWN
JUST BEWARE, I SAW HIM ON SHABBOS HE LOOKS VERY BAD
IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS IN A COMPLETE PHSYCHOSIS (OUT OF REALITY)
IF YOU REALLY LOVE HIM GET HIM OUT OF THAT WARZONE AND INTO THERAPY FAST, IF NOT HE MAY NEVER RECOVER
March 12th, 2006 at 11:32 pm
to yakov/hillel tendler, i agree with the previous blog…… only instead of trying to help your brother or should i say brothers, i would get as far away from them as possible unless they have something on you too! and thats why you are defending them!!!!!!
March 13th, 2006 at 1:02 am
Here’s a message for uncle hilly ...
March 13th, 2006 at 1:35 am
I have not posted in some time, and have simply stopped attending KNH after the legal petition to remove the rabbi was confiscated and no second copy was circulated “in the interests of community harmony” — and that was from the board that was ostensibly suspending The Messiah.
It does not take a brilliant lawyer to comprehend that 100 people attending the 8:15 minyan are 100 people voting in favor of maintaining Tendler, whether they like it or not. The 8:15 minyan existed before and never intimated any rejection of Tendler as Rabbi. The presence of a large group can be interpreted by any decent lawyer –and will be interpreted by any decent lawyer — as a cumulative attendance sum indicating strong and continued support for Tendler. There is no evidence otherwise absent the absurd ravings of one or two persons, anonymously no less, on some internet blog.
If even the 40 people who attended last week simply signed the petition to remove the rabbi this matter would be rightfully resolved already. Why not post the petition erev shabbos and daven kabolos shabbos so everyone can sign beforehand? why not just circulate it tonight and tomorrow? 40 signatures today is a full 55% of paid membership in the shul.
In the meantime, the shul does nothing. Worse, it is encouraging attendance that can only be legally interpreted as business as usual and growing support for Tendler. No court could interpret an increase in overall attendance from 55 to 120 except one of supporting the rabbi, unless there was a valid petition as defined in the bylaws or somehow each person was questioned as to their intent in attendance.
This is just another example of the ineptitude of opposition to Tendler.
The shul and its board have been suckered into a beis din that will need to discuss issues of adultery that can never be proven in a beis din forum, and the removal of a rabbi expressly absent the signatures detailed in the bylaws. As was noted above by a few persons, there is no precedent at all for such a verdict in any beis din –it will never happen.
The shul does not want to fight, the board does not want to fight, and no actions are taken when the Tendler Taliban literally confiscate the only legal petition that is valid to remove him.
If you want to do something serious, circulate a second petition tonight and tomorrow, and hold a special davening either kabolos shabbos or motzei shabbos so that people can come and sign. You only need your “regular” 40 to come.
As for us, we can no longer attend KNH in its current structure and format. Unfortunately, I dont see us attending anywhere else either. This experience has greatly effected us, and we just cant see joining any other shul anymore.
March 13th, 2006 at 1:54 am
It is much more serious than you think: ... (h ttp://ww w.memri.org/)
March 13th, 2006 at 1:58 am
It is much more serious than you think: ... (h ttp://m emri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD111206)
March 13th, 2006 at 4:25 am
KNH
As usual, I agree with you, as one of the lone voices of reason on this blog. Any attendance of the shul (upstairs, downstairs it makes no difference) will be interpreted as supporting Tendler. All the Tendlers need to do is take a body count and they can say “we had 50 people at shul this shabbas) See my previous post as well.
The bloggers who have threatened various acts of violence to Tendler have simply given him fuel for his “us vs. them” paranoia mentality (a very common cult feature btw) and will be used by him to show how crazy and dangerous the other side is. In addition, when people talk a lot, they generally don’t do a lot, let’s face it. There are doers and then there are the people who let off a lot of hot air and don’t do much. Stop the bla bla and just change the locks. I did it to my ex when he was becoming threatening and was endangering me. Just change the locks. It is simple and effective. JUST DO IT. Stop talking and take simply actions. Forget about the batei din, forget about the press, just get him out of the building. If you don’t have the guts to do it, SIMPLY GO ELSEWHERE. It takes a lot of courage to turn off a soap opera in the middle, but if you all do it, the show will go off the air, I guarantee it. And if it stays on, who cares? None of you will be watching it anyway.
March 13th, 2006 at 5:14 am
It is so pathetic that no one seems able to fire this guy.
March 13th, 2006 at 8:52 am
CRITICAL;
I APPLAUD YOUR ACTIONS!
WORKING AS A GROUP WE ARE TRYING TO USE THE MAIN SANCTUARY
FOR THE 8:15 MINYAN (NO TENDLER MINYAN)
TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHOUT VIOLENCE WE NEED AS MANY PEOPLE
AS WE CAN GET TO OVERWHELM THE OPPOSITION.
IF THERE IS VIOLENCE; THE POLICE WILL BE CALLED (EVEN ON SHABBOS
BY TENDLER THUGS) HE MAY USE THE PUBLICITY AGAINST US.
1) THE BEIS DIN IS IN MOTION
2) COME TO THE 8:15
3) DONATE TO THE BEIS DIN FUND
4) ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE CAN BE DISCUSSED DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD
AFTER DAVENING
I AM SURE BY THIS SHABBOS THERE WILL BE MORE MOMENTUM
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BETWEEN 100 AND 200 PEOPLE THERE
FRIENDS RELATIVES ETC. LETS SHOW THIS BUM !
March 13th, 2006 at 8:53 am
Can someone please get this to MT:
Dear Mordecai,
You and I go back a long ways, to the Mayor Teich days, the KY din torah, and beyond. While I moved out of New Hempstead a long time ago, I always kept an interest in the comings and goings of the Kehilla.
I am writing now in this forum because I have no other way of contacting you. I hear the paranoia has encumbered you. You were always many things, and one of those was someone with foresight. So listen to me when I tell you. You have to stop this disgrace now.
There will be more shame in continuing this charade then in admitting that you gave in to the temptation. Listen, you were born into greatness and you had huge shoes to fill, probably from day 1. We all know that great people have great inclinations, both good and evil.
There is no shame in admitting that you gave in. That will show the world how strong you are.
Because there is no sense in fighting this. It’s not just that the evidence is overwhelming (it is) and the chillul hashem is unparalleled in our time (it is). There is no sense in fighting because you will only continue to bring shame to those closest to you.
The tapes (more than you can imagine) are devastating. Do you want every house in Monsey hearing you having sex with someone other than your wife? Well, that’s where you are headed. Do you want Michelle to hear that? Your children and grand children?
We all know the great things you have accomplished. Don’t destroy all that thinking you can make this go away. It will never go away, because it happened.
Simple truths are often the hardest to grasp. Do it not only for your family, but for yourself. There will be no shame in the truth. There is no conspiracy, no plot, and no one is doing this to destroy you.
You are a fellow Jew no matter what. Let those closest to you get you the help you need before you even lose them. You still have a chance to achieve greatness, by ending this with dignity. By not bringing down the last few supporters you have with you. By showing the world that even in the face of great adversity the Feinstein dynasty lives on.
I close by saying I saw Michelle and one of your daughters recently. Both, not just Michelle, were shells of themselves. There is nothing most of Monsey wouldn’t do for a fellow Jew. Please, let us help you.
March 13th, 2006 at 9:02 am
KeNeneHora (KNH)
DON’T FOLD AND GO AWAY
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH THE TOUGH GET GOING
SUPPORT THE BOARD IT’S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW
WE CAN SIGN ANOTHER COPY OF THE PETITION IN 1/2 AN HOUR.
DON’T LET TENDLERS THUGS PUSH YOU OUT! IT’S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
THE SHUL NEEDS YOU NOW!!! MORE THAN EVER
ONLY THE BRAVE REMAIN, WE ASK YOU TO BE A PART OF IT.
WE WONT LET THAT PIG HURT US AGAIN!!
SEE YOU AT 8:15
March 13th, 2006 at 9:51 am
Your all a bunch of cowards …
I wan’t inside KNH this morning for the first minyan but the parking lot was full of cars and I believe that the pervert was davening with them
can anybody verify?
If this is in fact true, there is no hope for you guys!
March 13th, 2006 at 10:13 am
The Holy Shrink writes:
> I wan’t inside KNH this morning for the first minyan but the
> parking lot was full of cars
The first minyan (6am) is a very strong anti-Tendler minyan. If the parking lot was full, that is a bad sign for Tendler.
The second minyan (7am) is Tendler’s minyan, which has been having trouble getting a minyan for many months. If you saw the parking lot full for the 7am minyan, then don’t forget that the yeshiva’s teachers and administrators arrive at around 7:30am and add a lot of cars to the lot.
March 13th, 2006 at 10:24 am
The 6am minyon ran late due to the long davening this morning. Yacov T. had the decency to put on talis and tefillin in the yeshiva classroom and wait until the 6 am finished, however Rabbi T., no doubt in a show of defiance, walked in to the shul and up to the bima before the minyon was over. It is very uncomfortable to say the least.
March 13th, 2006 at 10:40 am
Until the so called protest minyan hires its own rav, even on a temporary basis, it will be viewed as a Tendler minyan.
March 13th, 2006 at 11:02 am
How is megillah reading going to work tonite? There have always been 2 readings, but never for political reasons. I can’t imagine that it can be “business as usual”.
Just wondering.
March 13th, 2006 at 11:05 am
Hi all. Long time reader, first time poster.
Besides that one person who said that he emailed the other lawyers at Hillel Tendler’s Law Firm, has anyone else been calling or emailing his colleagues?
March 13th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
I received a mailing from KNH regarding Purim. I am not a member of the shul. Why am I getting this? Has anyone actually checked the official member list to verify that it is accurate. Obviously, the larger the list the harder it is to get 55%.
March 13th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Only 1 megillah reading at KNH following the 6:40pm maariv. Tendler will be there. People who are uncomfortable with Tendler are going to other shuls. There is no 2nd megillah reading later in the evening like in years past.
March 13th, 2006 at 12:18 pm
Did anyone on the board ever think of changing the locks to the shul and just not giving tendler a key? Please, this is not rocket science. Doors for morning minyan close at 6:30. Doors for early Shabbos minyan close at 8:30 — decision of the board. Noone gets in after that. Learn how to get things done!
March 13th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
>Did anyone on the board ever think of changing the
>locks to the shul and just not giving tendler a key?
>Please, this is not rocket science.
See my numerous comments indicating this over the past weeks and months.
>Learn how to get things done!
Unfortunately, they don’t seem to learn.
March 13th, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Simple minds live in a simple world with simple solutions.
March 13th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
You expect people to come on time to davening?
March 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
You plan to lock out the yeshiva that arrives at 7:30am?
March 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pm
You want Tendler to sue KNH for breach of contract for locking him out? KNH would not be able to afford to pay the judgement and would have to give the building to Tendler.
You want Tendler to remain in power with ownership and control of the building?
March 13th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
if I dress like MT on Purim, can I freely grope my friends wives? Better yet, can I have the money in the mikveh fund?
March 13th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
Hey Lurker,
Ever think that the Yeshivah could get a copy of the key? There should be two copies — one for the person opening up for the morning minyan and one opening up for the Yeshivah at 7:30.
March 13th, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Tendler would lose.
March 13th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
At least change the lock on his office - board decision — and anyone who changes that lock should be subject to arrest. Whose shul is it anyways? Didn’t the board make a decision? What am I missing here?
March 13th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
> At least change the lock on his office
Agreed.
March 13th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
Holy Shrink
will you be there Shabbos morning to support
the GET_RID_OF TENDLER movement? 8:15 special davening just 4 u !!
I really want to see you there
We can discuss how he disgusts us,
and plan his demise
March 13th, 2006 at 3:18 pm
8:15 Shabbos morning I want to see all of you big talkers !!!!
Talking at the special 8:15 “boot tendler� Minyon�
You might be exposed to a little yelling and booing from the Tendler crowd
But you will be doing the right thing.
Support your community.
March 13th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
anonymous (8:53)
Your letter was well written and heart felt. What stops you from simply sending it via snail mail so you can make sure he gets it? It is worth sending! I thought of writing something similar to Michelle. The whole thing is a tragedy. Granted MT brought it on himself but it is still a tragedy. I wish there was someone who could talk some reason to them…
March 13th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
Anonymous 8:53 that is the most useless post ever written on this blog. It will never happen.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
Anonymous 8:53 -
Michelle is also to blame and if anytone like the BOZO Rebbe thinks the victims should admit their guilt in this matter, Michelle should be the first to come forward and admit her role in covering up her husbands sickness. She had a chance to do a great thing and openly admit her husband needs help. She could have been the ESTER we all needed but now our salvation must come from somewhere else. And you why she didn’t speak — was it a) because she was Mordys first victim and believes her husband is Moshiach b) because she is afraid of him as is the rest of his kehilla or c) because of the disgrace it would bring on her family — I say maybe all 3. But, the last thing she cared about were the victims and their families. That is 100% truth!!
March 13th, 2006 at 4:13 pm
I agree regarding Michelle. Everyone paints her as a Tzadekkis. She would be the first one to take down your family in order to save her own.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Years ago, when we wanted to buy a house she would only show us her listings. I wondered why she didn’t show us a listing which looked perfect for us. Finally I called the listed agent and sure enough, it was the perfect house and we bought it. Next thing I knew she was pissed off that I was trying to take parnassa from her husband who does so much for the community. Fuck her!!! She only wanted to make as money off us as possible and could give two shits as to what we could afford or what we liked.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
Behind every great man is a great woman. How dare you speak of me that way.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
This is a bad bad thing that is happening. In terms of a chillul hashem it ranks way high because MT was (is) a rav of a shul and a person who presented himelf to the public as a leader of the Jewish people. To find out that such a person was mizanav with married women is extremely shocking. The other behavior that went along with it is also very disinheartening. The Jewish people today have no leaders. We are a dor yisomim. Those who have tried to lead have been exposed as fakes, frauds, and phonies. Most of our “rabbis” are running around chasing money and kavod worse than the worst of them. They are all into their own thing, and don’t seem to give a flying fig about us, the Jewish people. There is no leadership. Whatever they do, they do for themselves. Whatever they don’t do, they don’t do for themselves. It wasn’t like this even 25 or 30 years ago. The poor folks at KNH are desperate for some rabbinic leadership to show them the way out of this mess, to show them how to get rid of the monkey on their back. Yet, no one has stepped forward, no David HaMelech has stepped forth to confront Golyas. So the Jews of KNH run to and fro, unsure, confused, and weakly wondering what to do next.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
Michelle certainly is not guilty of being a so-called enabler in her husbands cheating. That is crazy. She probably never dreamed things would come to this. How she’s not a victim of this I don’t understand. You mean she wanted her husband to cheat on her? Or you fault her for taking desperate measures to save her dignity? No one here wants to be in her shoes, thats for sure.
March 13th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
BT - well said. Unfortunately the upside down Jewish world is also reflected in the upside down secular world which follows our lead. Hashem should have mercy on us all - today Taanis Ester should be a day we all do T’shuvah. We really have nothing left we can do but cry our hearts out and pray for salvation. AT 5:00PM - I BEG EVERONE ON THIS BLOG TO ASK HASHEM FOR RACHAMIM AND FORGIVENESS — we all have taken part in such loshon hara here and we all are here because we are in so much pain. Let us all say Tehillim 130. Maybe we can make a difference.
March 13th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
With all due respect to the enormity of the scandal, I don’t think it’s the biggest chilul Hashem at all.
Reading in the newspaper that 20 Satmar chasidim were arrested for drunk and disorderly behavior and destruction of property, ON YOMTOV, in Williamsburg was also a big chilul Hashem.
Reading that a young man was arrested for installing a camera and peeping at the mikva in Rechovot was also a big chilul Hashem.
Reading that Jack Abramoff is an “Orthodox, black hat-wearing Jew” is a big chilul Hashem.
Reading about roshei yeshiva who are being investigated by the IRS and law enforcement for violating campaign contribution rules and misusing charity funds is also a chilul Hashem.
Hashem is being violated thoroughly. Kiveyachol. This blog isn’t doing Him any favors, either.
I don’t have the answers, but I know that we have to look at this in perspective. There may be no gedolim, there may be no leadership, but there’s still a Torah and there’s still only one God.
March 13th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
BT, yeah it was like this 25 years ago. We just didn’t have the internet to get the news out.
45 years ago orthodox talmud torahs deliberately didn’t educate children of the non-orthodox. They took their parents’ money, but taught them nothing.
March 13th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
Hey, look what I found on the website of Tendler II’s soon to be former shul in California. Take a look at the Tuesday evening class.
Rabbi Tendler’s Shiurim:
Mishnah Moment……………….daily after 6:45 minyan
Writings of Rav Dessler……….Sun. after the 8:00 am minyan
Chumash class:……………..… Monday @ 8:00 pm
Totally Torah Tuesday…………….. Tuesday @ 10:00 am
Torah Overview for Women…………Tuesday @ 8:30 pm @ the Tendler’s
Gemara Class:..………………………Thursday @ 8:00 pm
Daf Yomi Shiur……………………….Sat.-Sun 7:15 a.m.-M-Th 6 am
Rabbi Maza’s - Rambam:…………………………7:30 am downstairs Shabbos
Rabbi Lintz’s Halacha Shiur………………….….Shabbos: 10:15 a.m. Rabbi’s Study
Rabbi Stulberger’s Amud Yomi………………..… Daily: 7 am @ Valley Torah
Rabbi Israel Hirsch: Choshen Mishpat…………Tuesday @ 7:44 in Emek Bais Medresh
March 13th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
I first wish to offer all of you a freilichen purim….may mashiach come now and stop all this insanity
March 13th, 2006 at 9:21 pm
To anyone which I may have spoken lashon horah, and specifically to one person which I made fun of, he will know who he is if he reads this, I am sorry. I was caught up in the moment, and that is no excuse. Freilichin Purim to all.
March 13th, 2006 at 9:30 pm
What happened tonight at KNH …
I hope you guyes banged when you heard the name Mordechai!
Or did you all sit like a bunch of sheep saying BAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Bunch of cowards you all are
You guyes and not Mordechai (Hamen) is causing this chillul Hashem
by respecting him!
March 13th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
We don’t need Moshiach to stop this. It is up to us.
March 13th, 2006 at 11:58 pm
Steven can you make a #6 for this? It takes way to long to load up each time.
March 14th, 2006 at 2:42 am
so what happened at shul last night?
March 14th, 2006 at 3:18 am
If someone makes BTs do aveirot, what do they they write on his matzaivah after 120? V’rabeem Hasheev LI’OVONE?
Here is a time line about the KNH debacle.
1880-1930
Jews came to America where everybody worked 7 days a week. Jews that kept Shabbos were forced to look for a new job every Sunday. Hence, If you knew a Jew was a shomer Shabbos, you knew he was moiser nefesh for Yiddishkeit in it’s every detail.
1930-1960
The work week changes to a 5 day work week where almost nobody works Saturday-Sunday. A group of “traditional Jews” gives up almost everything except Shabbos and Kashrus, and few other “traditional” mitzvot. Shmiras Shabbos in America does not mean what it once did, because it no longer requires the mesiras nefesh that it once did.
1950-1970
The young Israel movement grows among these “traditional” Jews, the mechitzah is only for davening, the men and woman share a common entry/exit, they rub elbows at the socializing at the kiddush, women no longer are “forced” to cover their hair, the dinners have public mixed dancing (You can watch your friend’s wife dance, you just can’t dance with her [maybe].) The chapter in Shulchan Orech on Yichud is flushed down the toilet. In order to be polite, you shake your friend’s wife’s hand. Your Rabbi does likewise. (Of course it is only because of ettiquette, to be polite.) What used to be punishable by 39 lashes is now acceptable “orthodox” and what Torah calls Mumar L’davar echad (or 10 or 20 things) Is now called Modern Orthodox. If you know people that use the term “I’m shomer” like it is some kind of badge of honor, it’s because they recognize a denomination of judaism that is not “Shomer.” Torah calls this mumar l’davar echad, and such a person l’halacha is posul l’aidus and cannot be amashgiach on water. But in MO circles it’s pefectly acceptable.
1970-2006
The people that were ridiculing Lubavitch for making BTs from 1940-1970 realize that the system actually works and start their own kiruv movements, NCSY, etc. They are mikarev people to this watered-down form of Judaism, cheating them out of the kedusha and Tahara which comes with real Torah Judaism. They compare their Rabbis (the clowns on the RCA, for example) with all their degrees and doctorates, with Rabbanim that never looked in a secular book in their life and know Shas and poskim forwards, backwards, and sideways, without a computer.
1996-2006
A rabbi in New Hempstead meets with married woman behind closed (locked?) doors, in violation of Shulchan Orech, and it is acceptable practice according to the watered down standards of MO. He occasionally shakes hands or gives a pat on the back to female shul goers in vilation of Shulchan Orech and it’s perfectly normal by MO standards. He has sex with some of these married women during the times he has violated all the safegaurds that Torah gives us to prevent this from happening.
2006
The members of his shul that have tolerated nay, accepted his many breeches of halacha over the past ten years scream out, “Why won’t the Rabbanim in Monsey support us and help kick him out?”
Support whom? The rabbanim should show solidarity with a shul that has thrown out all the gedarim of Kedusha v’tahara that would have prevented this debacle?
You want the Rabbanim to say:
Mordy should leave, but it’s all right that woman in the community don’t cover their hair or legs like it says in Shulchan Orech; It’s Ok that men and woman elbow up to each other, buddy buddy, and shmooze at the kiddush despite the fact that every Charaidisha 7 year old knows the mishna in Pirkei avos says, al tarbeh sicha im ha-isha; It’s Ok that your kids go to co-ed dayschools and camps; it’s OK your 12 year old daughters have boyfriends; its OK you watch every type of schmootz on TV and movies; Yichud wasn’t the problem, the Rabbi was the problem. In short you created the monster, it’s up to you to drive a stake through his heart, figurtively speaking.
I was asked (personally, not on the blog) to come to the 8:15 minyan. Neither I, or any chareidi rav, can support a shul that wants to have a certain leeway to disregard Torah principles. If R’ Chaim Shea Haberstam, or R’ Chaim Leibush Rottenberg, Or R’ C.S.F Schneebalg, met with a woman (married or otherwise) behind a closed door even once, he would get the boot, because orthodox people don’t do that.
KNH is in a situation, ten years in the making, and all of their own doing. The Rabbi’s behavior was accepted during at least 10 years of flagarant violations of Halacha privately, is a reflection on the diluted value system of what is today called Modern orthodoxy. There are a few BTs that are overdosed on Tzaddik syndrome and are now very machmir on not listening to loshon horah and being “dun odom l’kaf zchus. It has not yet dawned on these BTs that the rabbanim that heard the case know a zillion times more Torah than you BTs and they knew all these halachas before they were bar mitzvahed and yet still heard the case and canned Mordy. Wake up and smell the coffee, and boot the rack. Hillel, put your tail (shvantz) between your legs and run home to Baltimore, we don’t need a baltimoron here. Tell mordy to keep it (shvantz) in his pants. Tell Araon to keep it (shvantz) off little boys and girls. Tell your father (shvantz) that this couldn’t happen to a nicer guy and it’s because he’s a a pathological liar, . a moiser, and a koifer
Modern Orthodoxy Mă-dÄ•rn Å?r-thÅ?-dÅ?ks-see. N.
1. A group of people that have reached a level of mediocrity in Jewish observances with which they are comfortable, and neither seek nor want to better this level in any way shape or form.
2. A group professing to adhere to the strict conduct requirements of Torah Judaism as long as it doesn’t interfere with their lifestyle.
March 14th, 2006 at 5:45 am
As a proudly Modern Orthodox jew for many decades, I could not agree more with chayimyankel….the entire Tendler morass, starting with Moshe and extending down to the sons, is a function of our community being in no mans land and having no clear halachic guidepath of how to deal with these kinds of abuse on the part of our rabbis…..and no one is rushing in to help…the very thought of a chasidish or charedei rov being in a private situation with a woman in the first place would never occur, and the boundaries of whose shul is it would be clearly established in black and white…and there is no such thing as a true beis din kovua in golus, therefore there is this bizarre notion f forcing ignorant baalei teshuva to false beis dins when frum for generations people would have no qualms in saying “forget it, we go to civil court”
this is our community’s problem to solve, and clearly the youngsters in New Hempstead are in way over their heads, compounding the mess
March 14th, 2006 at 6:24 am
Yeah right. Chasidim don’t run to hookers. Never in a million years. Chasiddishe rebbeim never got caught sticking their hands up a girls dress on an airplane. Chasisidische bus company owners never got caught with two black twelve year old girls in a motel. A Chassidische yingel never got caught putting a camera in a mikva. A Chassidische pervert genius never called up newly married women and said he from the rebbe and his job is to “examine” the newly married women. All this stuff and much more has happened in Cheraiedi circles and it has been going on for decades so get off your high horse and smell the coffee you phony baloney.
March 14th, 2006 at 6:46 am
I will add the problem is not so called Modern Orthodoxy, whatever that is (and the definition is different depending upon whom you ask.) The problem is a religious “leader” pretending or perhaps actually believing that he is something special and with a willingness to do whatever it takes, halacha and everything else be damned, to do what he wants and get what he wants. The other part of the equation are basically innocent Jews who themselves are fooled by this guy and fed a corrupt form of Judaism which venerates him as the center of the universe when in fact he is just an ordinary and perhaps disturbed individual who happens to have an illustrious Jewish scholar for a grandfather. It is not the first time that a self appointed leader has snookered his followers. It is not the first time that a cult leader uses women in the cult for his own personal sexual gratification. It is not the first time that a religious cult leader is a two bit hypocrite and it is not the first time that such a person is exposed and loses his empire.
March 14th, 2006 at 6:46 am
no one is disputing that crime ans sexual impropriety occurs in chasidish and charedei communities, and no one is suggesting they are a superior moral society to any other
The point is that once someone is exposed they function much more efficiently in dealing with the matter….the MO community repeatedly fails to function as a Self Regulating Organization, to use a term usually employed for doctors, lawyers and brokers who regulate their own colleagues when misdeeds occur….there simply is no structure or even moral support for this kind of action in the MO community or Rabbinate, and therefore we are all stuck with the disasters such as New Hempstead
…there is no medical ethics board or bar association among the rabbis, and none will step on the parnusa of another simply for the sake of a few hundred wounded baleh batim….bad for business, you understand
Even the RCA was abysmally tepid in their action…they simply threw him out of their organization without explanation and full disclosure, leaving him in power for years to come in a shul that will never muster the willpower or expertise to set the precedent of how to deal with a philandering rabbi….so there he was last night, as Mora D’Asra for over 150 people –an undeniable fact, as none of those 150 have taken any legally valid step to separate themselves from him much less remove him from the pulpit, no matter what 5 anonymous people may kvetch to this blog…….a point any lawyer worth this weight will point out in opening arguments…and every time they congregate without that cover letter or petition they reinforce his role and rule under all law and halacha
that is the core criticism of the MO, of which I remain a proud member, and what the community need accomplish in this next generation that we failed to accomplish in our generation
time for shul..purim sameach to all…veha’ir shushan (Monsey) navocho
March 14th, 2006 at 8:50 am
Whats wrong with you bunch of cowards?
I just drove by KNH and saw the parking lot full!
I suggest that anybody trying to help these pathetic idiots to get rid of the pervert, stop! They refuse to help themselves …
do not lift a finger to do anything!
Do Not come Shabbos to the 8:15 Minyan …
They deserve each other
March 14th, 2006 at 9:27 am
I understand there were over 150 people davening with Tendler for the megilla, as a legal fact…..and there certainly was no legal petition or statement from any of them indicating any objection to his being on the pulpit and leading……if they repeat this on Pesach, you can forget any legal action by any court or beis din, based upon the decisions of the shul members themselves….it would be a pointless and hopeless case to assume with that kind of repeated support for Tendler….these people are not stupid, and comprehend that no matter how much they kvetch anonymously here if they show up in such numbers without a single caveat there is nothing that can be done–and certainly not in a beis din forum where there is literally no precedent for removing a rabbi under these reasons and circumstances
As much as some of us might sympathize, one must sigh at yet another example of man’s flaws and move on…the difference in the manner in which the two shuls handled matters involving the two Tendler brothers is so stark from a legal perspective that is fatally damns New Hempstead in any forum of law if this continues any longer…..they are going to have to pay him off in a settlement, they have essentially forfeited the likelihood of winning a verdict, and it will cost a fortune…why would some 40 year old couple with children in yeshiva and a mortgage assume such debt because of case mismanagement by a shul board? It simply is not worth the dollar expenditure……
youth is wasted on the young
March 14th, 2006 at 9:33 am
I for one will no longer help them …
this is a disgrace for KNH,
that no one stood up for G-D and his Torah
No one stood up for integrity and morality
No rabbi should do anything for them ….
They now all know the truth and came like a bunch of sheep to worship Tendler!
They certainly didn’t worship G-D!
If they had they would have shouted him out!
STOP HELPING KNH >>>>
March 14th, 2006 at 9:44 am
I saw plenty of KNH people at my shul last night, sad.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:08 am
The truth is the people don’t care if he is sleeping around with wives of shul members. They just don’t care. We, the Jewish people, and especially the Orthodox community, are supposed to adhering to a higher standard. This is all you hear in yeshiva–that we are better than “them” with their low moral standards, people who we are supposed to stay away from. Well, here’s the sad truth folks. We are not better than them. The proof is here for all to see. The vast majority of gentiles in America are faithful to their spouses. In any church in this country, if the clergyman had affairs with women from the the church, they would toss him out. That we can’t even begin to do this shows what pathetic sheep mouthing empty slogans we have become.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:11 am
To Chaim Yankel
Don’t label all MO people with ome swoop just because they do not stack up to proper halachic standards. It does not mean they should be ostracized or ignored. Personally, I think a MO person should be included as part of a minyan before you include a Lubavitcher who believes the rebbe was Moshiach. We live in an age where the whole Orthodox camp is severely fragmented and everyone believes they have the “real” version of the truth. Although New HempsteadNudes was citing individual acts by Chassidim you only have to look at what has been happening in Satmar and Bobov at the top levels.All this because we are orphans without leadership. We have no giants like the Chofetz Chaim or the pre WWII Chassidic rebbes like those of Belz and Ger who were Tzaddikim. Most of us do not even know or understand the true nature of our pitiful situation.
Dear Chaim Yankel. Did you ever stop and think that maybe these people who you label MO feel free to selectively apply certain parts of Halacha because so called frum people who wear black hats and shaitels selectively apply other areas of halacha and who do not even say Good Shabbos when they pass each other by on the street.
It is Purim today. When you are out and about today greet every Jew no matter who with a freilichen Purim and you will have done more with that simple gesture than criticizing them.
We have to clean up our own act first.
If the KNH people are not doing anything on their own in a clear and conspicuous fashion then they cannot expect others to chip in. The Torah teaches us that we have to help our friend when he is struggling with a load only if that person is exerting an honest effort himself.
To all a freilichen Purim and may we all merit the coming of Moshiach as soon as possible.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:12 am
Tendler Won!
March 14th, 2006 at 10:21 am
To Holy Shrink
What has Tendler won? If the KNH organization are just a bunch of willies then Tendler will continue acting as if nothing has happened and they will have the leader they deserve.
Outside the KNh shul Tendler has about as much respect as Saddam Hussein.
I would hazard to guess that he would meet with some serious vocal negative reception in any other public frum gathering.
March 14th, 2006 at 11:26 am
I BEG ALL OF YOU NOT TO CONDEMN ANYONE EXCEPT MORDECHAI HIMSELF
NO ONE IS TO BLAME FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT TENDLER HIMSELF
PERIOD……
SEE ALL YOU BLOGGERS AT THE 8:15 SHABBOS MINYON
March 14th, 2006 at 11:30 am
Hey! Watch what you say about Saddam Hussein!
March 14th, 2006 at 11:30 am
Hear the canonist will stop when this thread ends @ #600!
He feels that the work has already been done!
March 14th, 2006 at 11:32 am
the 8:15 shabbos minyan is a joke. You should daven at a respectable shul. When Tendler goes, then go back to KNH if you want. otherwise you aid and abet his career there.
March 14th, 2006 at 11:55 am
NH Old Timer-
There is no legal indication whatsoever that anyone attending the 8:15 is protesting anything at all, much less opposing Tendler….the only intimation comes from you, a nonexistent fictitious nom de plum on an anonymous web blog….for all anyone knows, you are Tendler himself who has rightfully concluded that while people may not come to his minyan per se, he can get quite a crowd to the neutral venue minyan, sabbotage any real legal attempt at his removal by permitting them to vent in every manner except one that counts, and then utilize the joint attendance for his own proof in any trial or beis din — and he/you would be 100% correct in that strategy from a legal perspective
Every time you walk in that door without properly addressing your objection or protest in manners defined under bylaws or state law….If there were in fact over 100 people davening with him on Purim in one minyan, it is impossible to imagine a scenario after this holiday in which a verdict against him could ever be secured…..your/his constant solicitation of a crowd, albeit at a perceived neutral venue in the shul, has simply put a fortune of settlement funds in Tendlers pocket — funds that I understand members of the shul neither possess nor care to spend simply to pay him off to leave….you are all going to spend many, many years together largely due to the repeated decision to attempt just about every alternative save for proper legal alternatives to get rid of your rabbi
I suspect, however, that this was the intention of your solicitations to the neutral venue minyan all along, and that you are not nearly as naive as your Purim mask might otherwise portray
March 14th, 2006 at 1:36 pm
do not go to the 8:15 minyan-it will be seen as a vote for Tendler. Don’t be stupid. Just walk away. If you have to be there, stay outside with a sign saying “arur mordechai.”
March 14th, 2006 at 2:29 pm
If the present state of KNH represents anything, it is the death of common sense. If any employee anywhere else was accused of the misconduct that Rabbi Tendler has been accused of, common sense would dictate that he be out the door on a moment’s notice. It is tiresome to review all the scandals that surround the good rabbi. And yet, it is now Purim and in spite of a saucy lawsuit against him and the shul, criticism by respected rabbaim in the Monsey community, his expulsion from a widely respected rabbinic organization for conduct unbecoming an orthodox rabbi, and his suspension by the synagogue’s Board of Directors with the approval of the Board of Trustees, Tendler is still acting as the rabbi of KNH with no change in site. Instead of definitive action to enforce the suspension, or to terminate his employment or to reorganize under Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code (because of decreased membership and deficit spending), a charade has emerged of “I’ll show ‘em” where the anti-Tendlerites amass a larger minyan than can Tendler and his supporters. And then, after davening, the anti-Tendlerites in a festive self-congratulatory mood leave through the basement of the shul like gentle field mice. No protest is allowed, no demonstrations permissible, no press releases distributed to keep the public informed– why? Because it will take away from the sanctity of the Shabbat and Jewish Orthodoxy. And yet no one mentions that the mere presence of Tendler, who is the focal point of all the scandals, has, in and of itself, destroyed the sanctity of Shabbat and raised doubts of orthodox judaism as a way of life for many many people. On the shabbat before last, I pinned one of the NY Post articles to my chest. I was told it was inappropriate in the strongest of terms. And yes, it was inappropriate under NORMAL circumstances. But are these normal circumstances? No. Rabbi Tendler acts as if he owns KNH. Not so. And it is wrong that I and others should be denied davening in OUR SHUL because we no longer want to be associated with him. So, is it because I only have two years of Hebrew School, that I and others not as educated as the rabbaim must take it on the chin and let the halachic experts pilpul this matter out? Common sense under these circumstances dictates making one’s opinion known in a NONVIOLENT WAY. But, for some odd reason unbeknownst to me, this is not permitted. I do not blame the respective Boards for their collective silence. They are far more decent than the opposition. But as Churchill said of Montgomery, they risk snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Out in the community is a very frustrated group of Jews, many of whom are baalei teshuvas who do not understand all the commotion. The calculus is simple. Because of the cloud of scandal about him, Rabbi Tendler must leave voluntarily or his employment must be terminated. Is it wishful thinking to hope that the orthodox rabbaim can organize and speak as one on this matter and express the necessity for Rabbi Tendler to vacate his post? If this were done, then I and others would be greatly relieved. For common sense would not be dead; indeed, it would be alive and well and, in fact, be under the tent of orthodox Judaism.
March 14th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
Amein Veamein, Jeff
March 14th, 2006 at 2:45 pm
Jeff well said, of course of course the greatest blow to the sanctity of shul and shabbos is tendler’s presence let alone his acting as if he were still the rabbi- which he isn’t. The time for silence is long since over!
March 14th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
It is not up to the “rabbis” to get rid of Tendler. It is up to the KNH shul, period. They are the only ones who can do it. Each Orthodox shul is an entity unto itself. Unlike the Catholic church and other organized religious bodies, there is no overarching ecclesiastical authority. Every rabbi is on his own. Every shul is on its own. It is up to the membership of KNH to keep or get rid of their “rabbi.” No one else can do it, and the KNH people should not be looking for someone else to do it for them. That is unrealistic. It is up to them. Who among you can step to the plate and be the leader?
March 14th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
you guys really never learn do you?
You have already lost the battle. MT must be laughing his head off.
March 14th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
I passed MT”S house and there were many cars in front!
You bunch of losers ….. giving him shloach manos!
The Holy Shrink is absolutely right …
Tendler Won!
The heavens are crying, MT is laughing!
Purim was the time to make a move ….
You guys could have dressed up and slapped him around a little!
March 14th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
Mr. Cohen esq.:
Okay, so they don’t want you pinning newspaper articles to your tie (which might pose a Shabbat problem, btw, check with your local orthodox rabb…. er, check with a competent posek).
Will they tell you to take the kippah off or your head?
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March 14th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
BTW, a verse from the Torah or reference to it would accomplish your protest in a dignified manner, bring the issue back to Torah observance, and satisfy the legal questions about your presence at the minyan being an implied consent to MT’s continued tenure.
March 14th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
For those who think we should walk. Do you really wish Tendler to have control/possession of the property which is worth several million?
If we walk he will grab control by default.
I’d rather kick him out and sell the property and donate the money to abused women shelters.
March 14th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
antirov:
those are all excuses. Cut your losses and leave. Vote with your feet. I’ve heard many excuses on this blog that have to do with money-what is more important? Doing what is right? or money?
We just read the passage in the Tanach when King Saul is supposed to wipe out Amalek. Remember how he didn’t wipe out the animals as commanded because “it would be such a shame to waste them.” Sometimes you have to waste things when they are so connected to evil. JUST WALK AWAY. YOU CAN DO IT.
VOTE WITH YOUR FEET.
TURN OFF THE SOAP OPERA.
CUT UP YOUR CIGARETTES.
GET OFF YOUR ADDICTION TO THE TENDLER DRAMA. ALL IT IS IS AN ADDICTION TO SOMETHING THAT IS BAD FOR YOU AND INSIDIOUS.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
Critical: I don’t smoke, I don’t watch TV, and I don’t run from difficult situations.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.� Edmund Burke (1729-1797),
March 14th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Critical: BTW: Not sure where I would pray if I left.
Have absolutely no respect for any of the local hypercrites pontificating about how we should live without the slightest backbone to uphold simple Torah Halacha - if fact they seem unable to apply simple common sense.
For me most of the Gaons are less trustworthy than us simple yids.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
CRITICAL:
YOU ARE SO WRONG, YOU SOUND LIKE A CHILD RUNNING AWAY FROM A PROBLEM.
BE THERE AT THE 8:15 SHABBOS MINYAN AND STARE THE BASTARD IN THE FACE WHEN YOU PASS HIM ON THE WAY OUT.
KNH IS IN FOE THE FIGHT OF THEIR LIVES
EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG MUST BE THERE 8:15 TO SUPPORT THEIR EFFORTS.
LIVE FOR THE FUTURE OF NH.
MEMBER OR NOT BE THERE AND WISH THESE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN A GOOD SHABBOS.
THEY HAB\VE TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS BEHIND THEM.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Kehillat New Hempsteads board’s rabbinic lawyer Rabbi Shmuel Fried is being paid $350 hourly; expected $15,000-$25.000.
Their lawyer D. Schwartz, paid by the board at $400 hourly, was Rabbi Mordecai Tendlers’ former lawyer.
D. Schwartz, esq has smeared and retaliated against many of Tendlers victims on blogs.
And don’t forget D. Schwartzs’ statement in the Jewish Week.
It seems he bears a lot of hatred against these women, found himself on the wrong side; but is self serving.
There are cultish ties and cross-relationships showing a tremendous conflict of interest. So not surprised that Rabbi Tendler remains at KNH and negotiated into staying. Just as the token downstairs minyan was initiated to keep members from leaving so to be the above players parts to keep Tendler at KNH.
March 14th, 2006 at 10:24 pm
HERE IS A LIST OF HILLEL TENDLER;S BOSSES AND CO-WORKERS
PLEASE EMAIL THEM AND TELL THEM TO STOP HILLEL FROM HARRASING US OR WE WILL SUIT THEM
Attorney
Direct Line/
Fax Number
E-mail Address
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Adler, Nathan D. (410) 332-8516
(410) 951-6039 ...
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Bristow, Diane C. (410) 332-8586
(410) 951-6035 ...
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Devan, Deborah Hunt (410) 332-8522
(410) 332-8505 ...
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Dietrich, Ryan R. (410) 332-8526
(410) 951-6022 ...
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Ercole, Robert M. (410) 332-8559
(410) 332-8563 ...
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Flank, Brian A. (410) 332-8513
(410) 951-6043 ...
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Frisch, Linda A. (410) 332-8575
(410) 951-6029 ...
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Galvin, Nichole M. (410) 332-8592
(410) 951-6031 ...
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Gibber, Allan J. (410) 332-8580
(410) 332-8581 ...
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Gielen, Price O. (410) 332-8584
(410) 332-8561 ...
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Hess, Stanford D. (410) 869-8141
(410) 869-8194 ...
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Karangelen, Jennifer J. (410) 332-8532
(410) 951-6034 ...
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Legg, Robert P. (410) 332-8554
(410) 951-6030 ...
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Leppert, Cynthia L. (410) 332-8529
(410) 332-8578 ...
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Manley, Stacy L (410) 332-8589
(410) 951-6025 ...
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Muffoletto, Michaela C. (410) 332-8534
(410) 951-6024 ...
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Neuberger, Isaac M. (410) 332-8510
(410) 332-8511 ...
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Quinn, Michael L. (410) 332-8573
(410) 332-8576 ...
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Rubin, Richard (410) 332-8509
(410) 332-8562 ...
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Snyder, David L. (410) 332-8521
(410) 951-6040 ...
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Tendler, Hillel (410) 332-8552
(410) 951-6038 ...
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Wilkins, Susan M. (410) 332-8536
(410) 951-6036 ...
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Wood, Thomas M. IV (”Sam”) (410) 332-8523
(410) 332-8564 ...
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Zarren, Adam S. (410) 332-8525
(410) 951-6041 ...
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March 15th, 2006 at 7:06 am
I see the anti Tendler thing has turned into a pile of shit. You have Tendler’s own former lawyer representing KNH. What a joke! You guys are pathetic losers. Sorry, that’s how I see it. A bunch of nincompoops. Good luck and have fun getting screwed up the butt by your “rabbi” and your “lawyer.”
March 15th, 2006 at 7:26 am
NEWHEMPSTEAD NUDES:
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE
YOU ARE A BIG HELP
SEE YOU AT THE 8:15 MINYON SHABBOS MORNING
WE NEED YOU TO HELP US, DO THINGS BETTER
March 15th, 2006 at 10:41 am
the 8:15 minyan is a worthless useless joke that will accomplish NOTHING unless you move it to the main shul and prevent the heileger Humper from ascending the bima. Davening downstairs and sneaking out the side door like a bunch of little mice is about as weak and useless as you can get.
March 15th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Ok. Let’s see if I have this all straight:
1. Rabbi Tendler was suspended for less time than it would take to switch to Geico.
2. His chair was returned.
3. The petition to fire him was removed.
4. He can still maintain his innocence.
5. Most rabbis believe he’s innocent.
6. Most people believe he’s innocent, thanks to the Jewish Press.
7. He has successfully avoided beis din.
Bottom line: Teflon Mordechai is cleaning everyone’s clocks. He won. As long as he still has access and his job, he won. I don’t need to be lectured about moral victories like smaller attendance etc. He won, bottom line.
Why does davening at the early minyan solve anything? And what’s supposed to happen if he doesn’t respond to the March 27 deadline? They’ll make a scratch in his shtender as a protest?
Release the tapes. Excise the cancer, and get a real rabbi to give everyone back their spirituality.
March 15th, 2006 at 11:43 am
ALL PLEASE NOTE: M. Tendler Open Thread VI.
March 15th, 2006 at 11:56 am
No Lawyer But writes:
I agree with #1 through #4.
> 5. Most rabbis believe he’s innocent.
1000+ RCA Rabbis believe he’s guilty. The Rabbis in YU believe he’s guilty. Nearly all Rabbis in Monsey believe he’s guilty. I have heard from reliable sources that may rabbis in Israel believe that he’s guilty.
> 6. Most people believe he’s innocent, thanks to the Jewish Press.
Nearly everyone in Monsey believe he’s guilty. They trust the 8 Rabbis who signed the “anti-Tendler letter” and Rabbi Wosner 10,000% more than than trust the Tendlers at this point.
I think that people don’t believe the Jewish press as much as you might think.
The 650,000 readers of the NY Post also believe he’s guilty. The articles left little doubt.
> 7. He has successfully avoided beis din.
Tendler has until March 27th to have his lawyer and judge submitted for the Bais Din between the board and Tendler. I firmly believe that Tendler will never appear. He’ll drop the case (he is technically the plaintiff) at the last minute or refuse to participate for some technical reason. Tendler cannot face any bais din, and he knows it.
> Bottom line: Teflon Mordechai is cleaning everyone’s clocks. He won.
He gets no salary and barely gets a minyan. I would not call that a victory for Tendler. However, he surely has not lost until he is completely fired and barred from returning to KNH.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
Insider aka KNHs’ lawyer
March 15th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
He can face any beis din that can be bought off and there are many of them. Keep in mind that the dayanim are part of the illustrious Monsey Rabbinate that never bother to come forward…
Even if they uphold the suspension, that is not a firing. He can still park his sorry ass on the Rabbical Chair. In fact they can award him severence pay which will be dificult for the shul to avoid paying. Binding arbitration is usually upheld by the courts. Just imagine, they award him 200k severence pay.
The board needs a posak against him as a fit Rabbi (with/without him present). Terminate him via certified mail. Get an injunction to keep him of the premises and let him take us to civil court. After he loses the civil suit it will be over.
March 16th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
THis Just in folks from Michelle Tendler
Dear Kehilla,
It has sadly come to my attention that a tape has been played for different groups of our membership.
This tape is bogus. It is crudely doctored and modified. Many of the people who heard the tape laughed at this blatant attempt of falsification.
The original tape was heard ten years go by our family, Rabbi Flam z’l of Yeshiva of Spring Valley, as well other illustrious Rabbonim and as several attorneys who all summarily dismissed it as being meaningless.
This modified tape is barely audible, full of static and pauses.
One observer said “Rabbi Tendler, I can imitate your voice better than you.”
The evilness of trying to publicly violate the laws of Loshon Hora & Motzei Shem Ra is shocking.
That anyone would be foolish enough to believe it is even more shocking.
To sink so low as to fabricate false evidence is an act of desperation by evildoers to alienate people from the Shul.
You know my words are completely truthful. Keep loyal to Hashem and His Torah. Don’t be victimized by evil.
Warmly,
Rebbetzin Michelle Tendler
March 16th, 2006 at 6:11 pm
I just posted that e-mail from michelletendler at yahoo
I think its bogus
March 18th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
I have come to realize that the Tendler family is nothing more than a bunch of bullies who control and beat up people to get their way.
In Lakewood, we have “Rav” Shmuel Tendler and he is just as much of a bully as his cousins.
When my husband had an affair and bankrupted us, “Rav” Shmuel called me into his office and told me I “had to know” what was going on and I “had” to make my marriage work. He did nothing to help me or my children. My financial situation was so bad that my children have not been in school until a Kiruv school took them in last week. Tendler, who runs the school my girls used to attend knew they were not in a Jewish school and did nothing. When he found out that I had put my children in this particular school, he tried to interfere and stop it.
If it wasn’t for a Catholic charity providing a safe house for us and food, I don’t know what I would have done. The Jewish community here did nothing to help us and let us hang for no other reason than to bring me to my knees.
I know of woman in Lakewood whose children were kidnapped to Israel because the mother left the community. Now Lakewood has “Rav” Shmuel as a community liason to DYFS so children of “problem” families can be placed in Orthodox foster homes. When I needed a safe house for me ans my children, I was told “We have this Rabbi who will help you.” Of course that was Tendler. If it weren’t for Tendler, I wouldn’t have needed a safe house.
“Rav” Shmuel is on record that he will go to court and lie to testify that any woman who does not “behave” will be deemed as an unfit mother and she will loose her children.
I have been a frum Jew for 27 years, but thanks to “Rav” Shmuel I never want to see another Orthodox Jew as long as I live. He is nothing more than a poorly bred, ill mannered piece of human garbage and I never want to see him or any Lakewood rabbi as long as I live.
March 26th, 2006 at 1:00 pm
I happened on this site in my search for an answer to a halcha question and I was absoltley appaled and entirely disguested, we do not know what each mitzvah/aveira is worht in Hashem’s eyes and even if chas v’shalom everything you were writing was true- you are all taking part in a horrible form of lashon hara which is possibly and probably even more disgusting in Hashem’s eyes. How dare you defame the name of Jewish people…This is not at all productive and seriously shame on all of you!!!
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July 30th, 2007 at 7:34 am
i have just been the recent victim of rabbi shmuel tendler in lakewood new jersey. he was trying to help with a problem in the house, but only took it in his own hands. i have slept by a neighbor’s house and even went to my cousins in new york for almost two weeks because of him. he ruined me and my family. he threatened me that if i didn’t go to new york, something was going to be done to put my father in jail. as a result i have lost more weight with hardly an appetite and even a small depression. it is very important that anyone who was a victim of him to please contact me at my email address. ... . i need to find more of his victims in lakewood and hopefully form a support group. please give your name and number so that i may contact you.